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Hello. I am in the Houston Tx area. An avid MW listener and recently i have had a new station on 1670 nightly and into the mid morning. It does not seem to be a local signal. Starts to fade at sunrise and very strong at night. I have been listening for over a month now and the station plays a broad mix of music. Funny thing is there has never been a break or any type of station ID ever. I have monitored for up to 10 hrs at a time and never once heard an ID. Anyone else have any reception reports on this station or any info on it?
 

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Check out radio-locator.com
They show only 6 stations on 1670 in N America. They often have a link if the station has their audio feed on the internet and you can match it to what you are hearing on the radio. In 20+ years I have logged 4 different stations on 1670, only one of which was still on the air in 2021
 

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Check out radio-locator.com
They show only 6 stations on 1670 in N America. They often have a link if the station has their audio feed on the internet and you can match it to what you are hearing on the radio. In 20+ years I have logged 4 different stations on 1670, only one of which was still on the air in 2021
That's the first thing I did. I checked all the available live audio feeds from station listed on 1670. None of them matched. I have never heard of a commercial station that never IDs. This leads me to believe it may be pirate broadcasting.
 

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Back when I was SysOp of a BBS, I had a member who ran “Marty’s Pirate Radio” from a home built FM transmitter with just a watt or two, enough to go about a 3 block radius. He would spin records of his favorites. I think anything beliw a certain wattage is allowed, simlar to GMRS and FRS.
 

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Listening now, I hear a news/talk station. I believe it is WMGE in GA. I heard 'iHeart Radio' and 'Black Information Network'
I am also hearing POP music. Could be XEFCR.
 

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I doubt there are a ton of BIN stations on 1670. I know the two 1670 west coast stations aren't BIN (one Spanish language praise & religion, the other one conservative news-talk). The fact a station is BIN should probably narrow that one down a bit.
 

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Hello. I am in the Houston Tx area. An avid MW listener and recently i have had a new station on 1670 nightly and into the mid morning. It does not seem to be a local signal. Starts to fade at sunrise and very strong at night. I have been listening for over a month now and the station plays a broad mix of music. Funny thing is there has never been a break or any type of station ID ever. I have monitored for up to 10 hrs at a time and never once heard an ID. Anyone else have any reception reports on this station or any info on it?
The fact it fades at sunrise hints that it is not local, and is probably East of you, or at least in your time zone somewhere. It would help if you could indicate to the rest of us the bearing, or general bearing, of the station in question. There are a couple Mexican university stations and I've heard one on 1630 that plays a lot of experimental music at night, So, depending on station you're hearing, I wouldn't rule out a Mexican university station. although they are only 1 KW, but 1 KW can get out at night...

there’s a KDSX in Bonham,TX at 1670...hard to find solid info but one reference says it’s a legal low power AM?
I'm listening to a KDSX stream right now and it's heavy metal, at least presently. The Wizz. / KDSX 1670 ("Best Mix and Variety") on IHeart player. If the station the OP is listening to is this one, it's possible he could be hearing it.
 

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there’s a KDSX in Bonham,TX at 1670...hard to find solid info but one reference says it’s a legal low power AM?
Already checked with that station. Its not the one playing music

The fact it fades at sunrise hints that it is not local, and is probably East of you, or at least in your time zone somewhere. It would help if you could indicate to the rest of us the bearing, or general bearing, of the station in question. There are a couple Mexican university stations and I've heard one on 1630 that plays a lot of experimental music at night, So, depending on station you're hearing, I wouldn't rule out a Mexican university station. although they are only 1 KW, but 1 KW can get out at night...


I'm listening to a KDSX stream right now and it's heavy metal, at least presently. The Wizz. / KDSX 1670 ("Best Mix and Variety") on IHeart player. If the station the OP is listening to is this one, it's possible he could be hearing it.
Negative. I have researched this station also. Not the one playing music im hearing

When I come across a active frequency, I do a google search to see what comes up. Part of the fun is figuring out who it is.
First thing i did. I ruled out almost every station listed as licensed on 1670 that had a live stream. No luck
 

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XECFR would seem to be the most likely source. Found this posted on 12/21/21 on another board: "XEFCR on 1670 just across the border from McAllen, TX appears to be on the air again. Running english language AC music, no IDs." If they're using an omni-directional pattern at night you'd easily be within their range. The only other likely candidate in the FCC database is WMGE and you've eliminated them, so I'd conclude you have XECFR.

My brief online search did not turn up a web site so there's probably not a parallel stream you could verify with.
 

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XECFR would seem to be the most likely source. Found this posted on 12/21/21 on another board: "XEFCR on 1670 just across the border from McAllen, TX appears to be on the air again. Running english language AC music, no IDs." If they're using an omni-directional pattern at night you'd easily be within their range. The only other likely candidate in the FCC database is WMGE and you've eliminated them, so I'd conclude you have XECFR.

My brief online search did not turn up a web site so there's probably not a parallel stream you could verify with.
I tend to agree. Most likely is XEFCR. I have eliminated most other stations on 1670. . It seems they do not have a web site or stream available. But if they are broadcasting 24 hrs with no commercials or ID then i would have to assume it is indeed the one. Thank you for the reply.
 

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I got WOZN from Madison, WI fairly clear and I think I could hear a bit of WMGE out of Macon, GA. There was a hint of music way down in the weeds but nothing I did could bring it up to a listenable level.
 

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Hello. I am in the Houston Tx area. An avid MW listener and recently i have had a new station on 1670 nightly and into the mid morning. It does not seem to be a local signal. Starts to fade at sunrise and very strong at night. I have been listening for over a month now and the station plays a broad mix of music. Funny thing is there has never been a break or any type of station ID ever. I have monitored for up to 10 hrs at a time and never once heard an ID. Anyone else have any reception reports on this station or any info on it?

I've got this station at about 190 degrees true north bearing from my location ... this gives me a line of bearing through Reynosa,, Tamaulipas Mexico, which is across from McAllen. If we had one other individual with DF capability (a simple ferrite rod antenna equipped radio can give this) we could definitely say where they are located.

I use a marine direction finder called a “Coastal Navigator” model FR-662B, and shown here: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/unknown_all_transistor_direction.html

The advantage to the marine DF unit is I can resolve a 180 degree bearing ambiguity using the "Sense" antenna position, which indicates the true position w/o the usual 180 degree 'guess' that a ferrite rod alone gives.

73, Jim
 

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Sadly, not many of us have marine DF units at our disposal. A number of years ago I was involved in a hunt for a rogue carrier that popped up out of nowhere and stuck around for a few weeks. I can attest to direction finding without the proper equipment, and knowing how to use it, being an extremely difficult task. In my experience not many people understand how to go about it. I think you're being very generous to think a simple ferrite rod radio will do the job. Unfortunately, I don't have the proper equipment at my disposal anymore.
 
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