1670 KHZ

[Boombox]

You can get a rough enough bearing using the internal loopstick to figure out which direction the station is coming from, especially on an uncrowded frequency like 1670.

 

[Boombox]

1670 right now is talking nfl sports. Think it said fox sports.

Might have been WOZN, out of Wisconsin. They are CBS Sports Radio. Late nights they have Amy Lawrence, a CBS Sports Radio announcer.

 

[Patch42]

You can get a rough enough bearing using the internal loopstick to figure out which direction the station is coming from, especially on an uncrowded frequency like 1670.

If by "direction" you mean bearing +/- 45 degrees, then I might agree with you. Trust me, asking in a general forum for people to report bearing to some mystery station will end with nothing useful having been accomplished. I've seen it attempted in a forum with a higher general radio knowledge than I've observed here and it was a Charlie Foxtrot of misunderstanding of proper approach, confusion over magnetic vs true bearing, accuracy of bearing, etc. Of the two or three dozen people who tried to participate, I'd venture maybe four or five actually knew what they were doing. And in the case of this new station on 1670 you can't even clearly define what the target is. A station on 1670 that seems to play AC music all the time, never IDs, and has no online parallel for verification. I could land on C2CAM when they're playing bumper music and think I have the right station.

 

[Boombox]

Look, there can be a vast difference between E-W and N-S with some unidentified stations, especially in an uncrowded portion of the band. When some guy comes onto a forum asking for help with an UNID station, a general bearing can get him in the ball park, which is basically what this is all about.

This isn't a court of law, and DXing is not a science, it's a hobby. I've been doing it on the MW for over 40 years and I've learned a few things over that time period. One thing is that a general bearing can help people ID a station, or at least know which direction to look for a potential ID.

 

[Boombox]

I just re-read my post up there and I came across a little too harsh. My apologies, Patch42, I didn't mean to sound like that. Peace.

 

[Patch42]

Look, there can be a vast difference between E-W and N-S with some unidentified stations, especially in an uncrowded portion of the band. When some guy comes onto a forum asking for help with an UNID station, a general bearing can get him in the ball park, which is basically what this is all about.

I think the problem here is that we've been talking somewhat at cross purposes. I was originally responding to @MotoMOTRAC's attempt to triangulate the location of this station. This is something that requires a reasonably high degree of accuracy, which in turn requires somewhat specialized equipment. I assumed your response to me was in that context.

I don't at all disagree with you that vague "NE/SW" type directional information can be useful in reducing the list of possibilities. I do this all the time with my own listening. However, I don't think it's likely to be of any use in triangulating a transmitter position. So, "Seems to be on a line N/S from my location in Kansas City," would definitely be helpful in eliminating possible targets, but not likely of much use in determining what city a transmitter is in.

A number of years ago a strong carrier appeared on a frequency 1kHz away from one of the normal MW broadcast frequencies. A group I was in at the time made an effort to triangulate the location of the transmitter. I don't want to delve too deeply into this since this thread is about a station on 1670 and not triangulation using consumer radio gear, but it quickly became obvious that many people who are hardcore DXers don't actually understand how radio works. Nulling either the broadcast frequency station or the target transmitter would make the tone disappear, but most people didn't seem to understand this. This ended up with a lot of people reporting directional lines to the strongest broadcast station, not to the target rogue transmitter. In that case you really needed at least a radio capable of LSB/USB operation. That was different than figuring a general line to a live transmitter, but it was an eye opening experience.