172.2875 central new jersey
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puzzleriddle
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FBI is N167
thanks. don't know why i didn't put down who i thought the user was
its not like they are in the clear and will go encrypted when they find out about this post. been using dsd for a month and scanning for dea, customs, ice, atf, fbi. not one second in the clear....thought they were supposed to lose the encryption keys in the radio every one in a while...other fed frequencies that are supposed to be unencrypted i have never heard (air to air, public safety interop, federal interop)
the 90s were the golden age for this hobby. heard customs aircraft on 165.2375 following somebody going down the highway and noted every lane change, an atf surveillance on 165.2875, unknown agents on 164 something discussing if they should call the u.s. attorney now. dea surveillance on 418.75 watching some guy who met 2 others guys at a mall and then it became 3 different tails. 173.125 in the clear most of the time during the 2000s except for the month after 9/11 then in the clear again for the next 7 years.
its not like they are in the clear and will go encrypted when they find out about this post. been using dsd for a month and scanning for dea, customs, ice, atf, fbi. not one second in the clear....thought they were supposed to lose the encryption keys in the radio every one in a while...other fed frequencies that are supposed to be unencrypted i have never heard (air to air, public safety interop, federal interop)
the 90s were the golden age for this hobby. heard customs aircraft on 165.2375 following somebody going down the highway and noted every lane change, an atf surveillance on 165.2875, unknown agents on 164 something discussing if they should call the u.s. attorney now. dea surveillance on 418.75 watching some guy who met 2 others guys at a mall and then it became 3 different tails. 173.125 in the clear most of the time during the 2000s except for the month after 9/11 then in the clear again for the next 7 years.
Except for the statewide repeater system the FBI went DES3 before the FCC mandated "all transmissions of a sensitive nature be encrypted" years ago. That's when I stopped monitoring, no more Cuban-Colombian cocaine wars, no more John Gotti, no more chuckles when the county NSF got in the way, no more good stuff.
ecps92
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Please, Please Please :roll:
The FCC has no control over FEDERAL Agencies, that is the DOC under the NTIA, there is NO FCC mandate
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The NY/NJ FIO [Federal Interop] is routinely in the Clear.
Check the RR DB
DoE from Brookhaven is Analog still.
The FCC has no control over FEDERAL Agencies, that is the DOC under the NTIA, there is NO FCC mandate
:roll:
The NY/NJ FIO [Federal Interop] is routinely in the Clear.
Check the RR DB
DoE from Brookhaven is Analog still.
Read my post again, I never said the FCC mandated the FBI or any government agency, I said the FBI started using encryption before the FCC mandated it.
Follow me here, DES was developed by the CIA and was classified at first and only the government eg. FBI used it on air. Later it was declassified and in use on the internet then in its infancy, the software was available but illegal to export, I had a copy BTW. Later still the ban on export was lifted and it became the most widely used encryption for on line banking, trade, etc.
This is not to be confused with the now ever popular encryption available for use with P-25 digital voice which came into use under the FCC mandate. DES3 is a three layer scheme, encrypted, encrypted again and encrypted a third time. While not impossible to break it takes so long (on the order of 10,000 years) it may be considered er... secure.
Of course interop is in the clear, how else could anyone communicate across divisions or agencies? There is no standard or common code for good reason, security.
Brookhaven is analog and so is Oyster Creek Nuclear, routine site operations chatter is SOOOooo boring I don't bother listening.
Follow me here, DES was developed by the CIA and was classified at first and only the government eg. FBI used it on air. Later it was declassified and in use on the internet then in its infancy, the software was available but illegal to export, I had a copy BTW. Later still the ban on export was lifted and it became the most widely used encryption for on line banking, trade, etc.
This is not to be confused with the now ever popular encryption available for use with P-25 digital voice which came into use under the FCC mandate. DES3 is a three layer scheme, encrypted, encrypted again and encrypted a third time. While not impossible to break it takes so long (on the order of 10,000 years) it may be considered er... secure.
Of course interop is in the clear, how else could anyone communicate across divisions or agencies? There is no standard or common code for good reason, security.
Brookhaven is analog and so is Oyster Creek Nuclear, routine site operations chatter is SOOOooo boring I don't bother listening.
Not all Fed LE interop is in the clear. Search is your friend.
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ecps92
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I'd love to know what the good drug is. :evil:
The FCC did not mandate any Encryption :roll: Ugh Amazing
The FCC did not mandate any Encryption :roll: Ugh Amazing
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