2011 Jeep Patriot - newsphotog rig 3.0

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Comet and Diamond both make short 2/70 NMO antennas with open coils that look like cell antennas with lengths that will allow you to clear the same garages you clear with the 1/4 wave.


You're overpaying ;)


A properly tuned 2M 1/4 wave spike is resonant on 440mhz repeater band
 

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True but it won't work very well on 440. As a 3/4 wave antenna the majority of the RF is shooting upwards.

A lot of guys use them for satellite work because of the radiation pattern.
 

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There couldn't possibly be any other explanation? Perhaps maybe the amateur repeater in GRIMES Iowa?

Jason knows my programming all too well... that channel is the "B" module (UHF) of the KD0IAN D-STAR repeater located in Grimes.


True but it won't work very well on 440. As a 3/4 wave antenna the majority of the RF is shooting upwards.

A lot of guys use them for satellite work because of the radiation pattern.

Works well for me. Don't fix it if it ain't broken!
 

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I don't think I would change out the radio in the vehicle as you would probably lose most of the steering wheel controls
You never have to give up steering wheel controls when upgrading a car stereo.

There are several models of inexpensive steering wheel control modules that allow the use all all steering wheel functions with an aftermarket stereo. Some stereos even have the functionality built in. Whether it is built into the radio or a separate module, it is usually just a couple extra wires that hook into the factory radio harness.
 

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Well, going to throw in my 2 cents. I know the newer vehicles are so tight in mounting radio equipment. That is what I've been starting to look at in when I'm ready for a new vehicle. But, I noticed that you have your scanner mounted in the glove box. Having it open to see the control head might be a safety concern for the air bag deployment zone. Also, it looks kind of hard to see if your looking at the display (might be a safety concern if your trying to look at it while driving.

A thought comes to mind, you have that open console area above the glove box, why not design a 45 degree angle bracket for the control head so that you would be able to safely see the display and also it would be out of the air bag deployment zone.

Other than that, it is an excellent setup.
 

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It's not in the airbag deployment zone and I don't drive around with the glove compartment open (that's why the glove compartment is open in only one of the pictures). If I had a remote head for the scanner, I'd put it up where the remote head for the radio was if it fits, but RH-96's are as rare as blood diamonds these days.
 

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They supposedly produced the previous batch from "new old stock" parts. I'm not sure if they still had enough parts to make this batch as well or if they sourced some new parts.

But regardless of how they got them, ScannerMaster has had them in stock for almost 2 months now and they are probably running very low. If it is an item you want then you may want to order it soon as you probably won't have much more time to get one.
 

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Made a few changes to the install... of course, the radio was overloading the scanner a little bit so I wanted to give the antennas a little more separation both vertically and horizontally to eliminate this. It was also bothering me that I didn't have a display or controls readily accessible for the scanner except from the glove compartment. So I wanted to add the Uniden RH-96 remote head as well.

The fender was pretty much the only other place to put the scanner antenna. Because the Patriot has a unique hood shape, a regular 90-degree fender mount bracket wasn't going to do. I found a thread on JeepPatriot.com (Two-Way Radio Install? - Page 2 - Jeep Patriot Forums) in which they used a Dodge Ram fender mount to accommodate the lip. I used the Laird SBH3400 bracket (Laird Technologies SBH3400 Dodge Ram Antenna Bracket | TESSCO) and it works fine. We drilled a new hole in the center of the bracket to bring the bracket in tighter against the fender so it doesn't stick out. It's bolted on using a bolt that was already there, so no new holes. I am slightly concerned about some rubbing, but some adhesive felt or the hook side of Velcro might cushion it nicely.

Instead of the Antenex ETRAB8063 Phantom Elite Antenna that I've been using, I figured I'd do well with a nice traditional-style antenna on the fender. I am now using a Laird B8065CN 806-866 5dB no ground plane antenna that I had laying around. Talk about super gain! This pulls in trunked systems further than any other 800 MHz antenna I've tried. It works well on UHF as well, but not so hot on VHF, but I rarely ever need that band.

I moved the BCD996T out of the glove compartment to underneath the passenger's seat with the other radio. When trying to find a spot to place the RH-96 head, the only decent place to mount it was in the cubby above the glove compartment (no, it's not in the air bag deployment zone). I'd rather have everything in one place instead of all spread around, so I moved the ID-800H head down to the cubby too. We took the rubber mat out of the cubby, drilled through the bottom to run cables, and stuck the heads down and replaced the mat. You can't even tell the difference. I like it a lot better in the cubby... I don't have to reach as far to turn the volume up/down as I did when the radio head was in the headliner. The only bad thing is that my ProClip mount that I haven't ordered yet might get in the way.

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As always, awesome! You should try the Larsen 150/450/800 MHz antenna. It does pretty darn good on VHF and 800. UHF I would say is "average".

Tim
 
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