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SO I am pretty savy with programming and also know some of the back end tech for communications..

But this thing is kicking my butt..

I have free scan, and have subbed to the RR database..

Can someone suggest the most efficient or effective settings or setup for groups in Louisiana..

It seems that if I try to do it by city, it picks up local traffic but under the heading of the city,
if I do it by interrest, for example.. by local police or state police it will give me local traffic alright but also under the wrong city or wrong heading..


please help..

thanks in advance..
 

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The best advice I can give you is to be patient. What you are asking about is really a personal preference issue. It took me several tries to get mine configured the way I wanted.
 

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I have added a bucket of patience

I have tried loading it just the way the RR is setup, I have tried it with each city.. I have tried it with each service type but I dont understand when I add them.. each time I erase the previous loads to keep the confusion factor low(er) but I still get hits on multiple interests.. its weird
 

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SO I am pretty savy with programming and also know some of the back end tech for communications..

But this thing is kicking my butt..

I have free scan, and have subbed to the RR database..

Can someone suggest the most efficient or effective settings or setup for groups in Louisiana..

It seems that if I try to do it by city, it picks up local traffic but under the heading of the city,
if I do it by interrest, for example.. by local police or state police it will give me local traffic alright but also under the wrong city or wrong heading..


please help..

thanks in advance..
Hi Dave
It might help if you posted your FreeScan file, so that someone could see how you have it set up. But, let me take a stab at it first, then you can look at your file, & see if my guess is anywhere close.

When you used the web import for FreeScan, by default it's going to set up the system this way, unless you force it otherwise (or edit it after import):

First, it will import the sites you've selected from those listed for the system (in this case, I'm guessing you're talking about LWIN, right?) Those site names are based on the locations, cities, parishes, whatever (looks like a lot of them are cities). Those selected will be used as the name for each site created in the system in FreeScan.

Second, the groups are based on a parish name, usually with a specific agency. That's matched up with the various sub-headings shown on the LWIN page in the database. I see several groups related to Baton Rouge; if you selected all of those, you would have separate groups in the system in FreeScan after import.

Now, when scanning, what you see on the display is this:
On the top text line, the "site" name alternates with the group name.
On the second line, the text tag for the actual talkgroup appears.

Since a unit's radio may be be associated (or linked) with more than one tower (basically, with all the towers that provide coverage in that agencies jurisdiction, and probably slightly beyond), radio traffic will likely be carried on more than one of them, at any given time. On your 396XT, if you're listening Baton Rouge PD, and the scanner has picked up traffic from the Baton Rouge site, then your top line display is alternating as 'Baton Rouge' (the site name), and "EastBatonRouge" (or whatever you edited the group name to be, such as 'Baton Rouge PD').
The second line would be the text tag for the actual talkgroup.

However, if the radio traffic being received is not coming off the Baton Rouge tower, but instead, from a neighboring site (you can see the site #s for the neighbors, by clicking on the 'Baton Rouge" on the site listing), then you'd see that name. One example might be the neighbor site Geismar. Is that the sort of "wrong city" you are talking about? If so, that's normal. The 396XT goes through each site it can receive, then checks to see if any of the entered talkgroups are active, then it receives them before moving to the next site. Some people prefer to know which site they are receiving traffic from (to get an idea of reception range).

If this is what you are seeing, and find it a distraction, you could simply rename all of the sites as "LWIN", the system name. You'd still have the group name, to identify the actual agency (Baton Rouge PD, of FD, or the Sheriff's office). If that explanation is off target, the I'd suggest that you provide a few more details, and also post your FreeScan file. What you'll need to do, is save a copy, then either zip it, or add a txt extension to the file name, so that you can attach it to your message. (If your file was named "Dave.996", you'd have to rename it "Dave.996.txt" in order to upload. The *.996 file extension is not allowed. But *.zip & *.txt files are.)
 

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Thank you Steve, That makes more sense.. I was under the impression it would omit the traffic from adjacent cities or the given coverage would not be that far.. I guess that is where I was wrong..

I will refrain from uploading the file as of yet, I want to play more with it.. and dont want to cause hassle..

If I was to want to limit the interests to services, such as a troop or certain city police, is there an easier way than downloading and locking out everything but that service?
 

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Get a subscription to this site and then, using Freescan, you can download from the on line databases for your area if you live in the USA or Canada (don't know about elswhere though). It cost an extra $15.00 to register here and was worth every penny. The only other trick is that if you want to hear a system you must assign it a "quick key".
 

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Thank you Ed, if you had bothered to READ the original post, I am not new to the site and have a membership as well as a longtime membership holder.. just new to the uniden..

if you look up to the users post, top right you will see a join date, as well as premium subscriber is listed..

thanks for the tip on the quick keys
 

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Thank you Steve, That makes more sense.. I was under the impression it would omit the traffic from adjacent cities or the given coverage would not be that far.. I guess that is where I was wrong..

I will refrain from uploading the file as of yet, I want to play more with it.. and dont want to cause hassle..

If I was to want to limit the interests to services, such as a troop or certain city police, is there an easier way than downloading and locking out everything but that service?
Dave,
Since the 396XT has such a large memory, what you could do is this:
For whatever you want to "narrow it down to', download only those talkgroups into a new system. You still need, though, to download the sites where their traffic might be carried. I'm guessing that we're assuming Baton Rouge? If not, allow me to still use it as an example.
If the only talkgroups on that system are Baton Rouge (regardless of how many transmit sites you have downloaded as well), then make sure that under "ID mode" (that's the 'top' dialog box of the trunked system edit menu, above both the groups and transmit sites in FreeScan) you select "ID Scan", not "ID Search". This will limit the scanner to only the talkgroup ID's you have downloaded (or entered) in that system. 'ID Search' would receive any active talkgroup encountered, except those locked out. Talkgroups entered (with a text tag) would show the text tag on the display (in "Search mode"). Talkgroups that were active, but not entered, would show up with on the display with only the talkgroup ID, no text tag.

However, you can probably accomplish the same end result with the data you've already downloaded.
If there are other talkgroups in your existing system, that you may also want to hear (such as the state troopers, or a neighboring parish or city), then instead of downloading your system (again), try this:
<Right> click on the name of your existing system.
From the pop-up menu, select copy
Now, either <right> click again, & select "Paste", or use the standard Windows command for paste, "Control + V" (that's also in the Edit menu, as is the copy sequence).

This will give you two copies of the same system. For one of them, delete the groups that don't relate to Baton Rouge, as well as any other talkgroups that you don't want to hear. Either leave the site names as is, or change them to all one name (LWIN, or Baton Rouge, maybe "BTN Rouge 109" to also get the site # in there if you wanted that info). With this edited system set for "ID Scan", those talkgroups will be all you hear. And, if you changed the site names, that's what will show as well.

For the other system, edit out anything that IS related to Baton Rouge. Again, either leave the site names as they were downloaded, change them up, whatever; your choice. Set this system to ID Scan as well. SInce no Baton Rouge talkgroups are present, you won't hear them when this system is scanned. I would also suggest that you change the quick keys (these are at the site level), so that they are different for the two systems. That way, you can turn the two systems on or off independently much more easily.
 

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Thank you Ed, if you had bothered to READ the original post, I am not new to the site and have a membership as well as a longtime membership holder.. just new to the uniden..

Ah well, then I'll be sure not to bother helping you next time lest I inadvertently insult you.
 
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