653 NAC?

[Marcy57]

This is listed as BATFE? but it ID as a different agency is that normal?
on 167.7875 to NY, CT. etc.
73,s Marcy

 

[nd5y]

167.7875 is a FBI frequency in many places but that can vary.

 

[dave3825]

This is listed as BATFE? but it ID as a different agency is that normal?

Just curious, where do you see it listed as BATFE?

167.78750		653 NAC	FBI For NYC & North Jersey Metro Area Metro Area Roll Call 10:00 AM Every Wed.	Department of Justice (Newark) Federal Government	Federal Essex	NJ
167.78750	164.73750	653 NAC	NYC Federal Interoperability 1	Interoperability Federal	Federal New York City	NY

 

[Marcy57]

on here, "653 BATFE input" unless I read it wrong...it was roll call guess just as its says?
there is a list of all the NAC ,s thats where I viewed it.

 

[FDNY10-75]

FBI Albany FO uses 167.7875 with NAC 653

 

[RaleighGuy]

on here, "653 BATFE input" unless I read it wrong...it was roll call guess just as its says?
there is a list of all the NAC ,s thats where I viewed it.

That doesn't show us the source, only what it says.

 

[dave3825]

That doesn't show us the source, only what it says.

Oh, I see it. Its in the wiki fed nac page Federal NAC Codes - The RadioReference Wiki

653	BATFE input NAC, Federal Interoperability

 

[Marcy57]

thank you...Marcy

 

[RaleighGuy]

Oh, I see it. Its in the wiki fed nac page Federal NAC Codes - The RadioReference Wiki

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653	BATFE input NAC, Federal Interoperability

If you read that properly, there are two entries there (note the comma). While it may be BATFE Input it may also be a Federal Interop, which means it could be anyone.

 

[ecps92]

As a learning lesson for all of us:

A Frequency Alone does not ID who the Agency is
A NAC Alone does not ID who the Agency is
Even RID's (altho, SOME agencies folllow an "AGENCY" plan) RID's might help point to the user, with the above two other items.
And even with 1, 2 and 3 = 6 IT may take a lot of research and listening.

Sources, other than the RRDB is the Wiki which can be searched by just the Frequency or a Marcy found a nice
reference of NAC's and for Federal an awesome resource is the monthly Spectrum Monitor which has a Federal section written by our
traveling Nomad who frequents here. Then his blog/twitter The Fed Files Blog


Macry, keep in mind NAC's get used/re-used across different agencies etc

100% Accurate that
$653 is a NAC heard on the BATFE input freq, when they want to use the NET-3 Repeater, but that input freq is 166.5375
Each BATFE Repeater has it's own input NAC so NET 1 is $651, Net 2 is $652 etc, up thru $65F (15 selections)
$653 is also a NAC common to many of the DOJ 25 (now more than 25) Cities (UASI) Interop channels

Federal/Non-Federal Interoperability - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

And $653 has been found in use by other agencies, before, after and during Major Events (Hurricanes, Fires, other large Disasters)

As you can see from the RR Wiki

Federal/Non-Federal Interoperability - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

167.7875 is the NYC FIO 1 sharing the input with FIO 3, 4 and 5

Nice Find and a Great reminder of what is out there on a daily basis

on here, "653 BATFE input" unless I read it wrong...it was roll call guess just as its says?
there is a list of all the NAC ,s thats where I viewed it.

 

[ecps92]

You might want to double check, as the Albany FO uses 167.7875 but $167 as part of the
Wide Area Network of multiple Repeaters (atleast 5 - sharing a common input)

FBI Albany FO uses 167.7875 with NAC 653

 

[Marcy57]

Thank you for the information as usual I will do more checking and reading
before reporting, It was as I guess "roll call" clg many many agencies from
DOL to Ct. St. Police and on and on asking for radio checks ...thanks to all
as usual....(still learning)...73,s Marcy

 

[ecps92]

IF anyone is interested in logging and attempting to match up RID's in NY/NJ/CT
this net does a Roll Call on EVERY Wednesday at 10am.

Our Boston Net (168.1125) is the First Wednesday of each month at 10am, for MA/RI and NH agencies

Thank you for the information as usual I will do more checking and reading
before reporting, It was as I guess "roll call" clg many many agencies from
DOL to Ct. St. Police and on and on asking for radio checks ...thanks to all
as usual....(still learning)...73,s Marcy

 

[APX8000]

Good luck getting those UIDs. 90 percent of the agencies don't bother to answer.