800 Mhz Question

[radiotrack1]

I live in Robeson Co and have programmed in all the freqs for Robeson Co Viper System and Fayetteville SMR in my Radio Shack PRO-2067 scanner with all freqs open and have never heard anything except on the control channel every few minutes I hear some digital information. What am I doing wrong?

 

[LGLHOOK]

What kind of system is it. You might need to change the scan mode to recieve your system (ie. MOT, ED, AM, FM etc.) Just an idea, hope it helps.

 

[radiotrack1]

I have it on pl which as far as I know it will recieve everything and display the pl tone if there is one to display. I bought this scanner from a pawn shop so I don't know everything about how to operate it.

 

[benjaminarthurt]

also make sure the channels are in the right order and dont start on 00 but 01, at least for the SMR type system you mentioned. as far as the Viper system, im not familiar with the area but i see it supports both analog and digital talk groups, its possible everything you are recieveing is digital, see the MODE colum in the database "A" for and analog and "D" for digital. Hope this helps

Ben

 

[radiotrack1]

Do I put the control channel on channel 01 or can I put it on like 101 and is viper system motorola, edacs, or ltr

 

[benjaminarthurt]

01 would be channel poisition 1 (but 0 comes before one)
101 would also be channel 1 but in bank 3

001, 051, 101, 151, etc would be first channel in each bank, 50 chans per bank, 10 banks 500 chans total.


viper is moto, see database. to the best of my knowledge moto systems can be put in the sanner in any order and in any posistion, although you are usually better off keeping it in seperate banks from other trunking systems.

Hope i am being helpful
Ben

 

[jeffmulter]

Okay, Radiotrack 1 ... you want to monitor two trunked systems. The Viper system is a Motorola type 2 system, and the Fayetteville SMR is an EDACS system.

They need to be in separate banks.

For the Viper system, you need to set the BANK to Motorola type 2, and well as set the individual frequencies to Motorola type 2. The frequencies can be in any order, and memory channel within the same bank.

Set the bank to "open," then scan. "Open" allows you to hear any active talkgroups ... in "closed" mode, you would only hear talkgroups entered in the talkgroup list.

The Pro 2067 was not generally considered a good 800 MHz receiver. Once you get the Viper site frequencies programmed, manually step through the frequencies and listen for a control channel. You must be able to hear the control channel to monitor the system site. If you are using the telescoping antenna, try changing the length to improve the signal level.

For guidance in the 2067 scanner operation and programming, you can download a free manual, in Adobe Acrobat format, at:

http://support.radioshack.com/support_electronics/58160.htm

If you don't have Adobe reader software, that is also available online for free for personal use.

A program called Win92 is available online as shareware. It makes programming the 2067 (and the Pro 92, which is the handheld version) much easier, although you need the proper programming cable.

With regards to the "Fayetteville SMR," the information in the RadioReference database is over a year old. A thread on the NC Forum from 11/01/2005 indicated that the RR db info was no longer correct. Looking at some of the frequencies mentioned in the RR db, vs the FCC database, it appears the SMR might have been taken over by Nextel.

If the system was still active, you would have to decide which sites you wanted to monitor, and enter each site as a separate system ... meaning each site would have to be in a separate scanner bank. Because it is / was an EDACS system, the frequencies would have to be programmed into the scanner by their Logical Channel Number (LCN), so you would need to know each frequencies' LCN.

Once you know each LCN, you would have to program the frequency in the appropriate memory position in a bank, so the LCN 1 frequency is programmed in the x01 position of a bank, LCN 5 is in position x05, etc.

The LCNs for a site can be figured out through trial and error, but it can be cumbersome when a site has 15-20 frequencies.

I hope that gets you started.


Jeff Multer
Fort Mill, S.C.

 

[jeffmulter]

>> Because it is / was an EDACS system, the frequencies would have to be programmed into the scanner by their Logical Channel Number (LCN), so you would need to know each frequencies' LCN.

The bank would also need to be set to EDACS, as well as the channels you program the EDACS frequencies in.

PL and DPL are only used when programming conventional channels.


Jeff M

 

[radiotrack1]

Thanks Jeff I set it up like you said and am currently hearing Raliegh units. Now do I have to dedicate one entire bank for the viper system or can I also enter conventional frequencies like 155.160 and 460.500 in the same bank?

 

[Grog]

You can put both trunked & non-trunked freqs in the same bank.

If you ever try to listen to several moto systems in one bank, it's even recommened to put a conventional freq in between the trunked freqs.

On a side note, I try to save space in my scanner by putting two systems from different areas in the same bank. I can just lock or unlock the control channels as needed. As an example, I have Mooresville & Shelby 800 in the same bank. As they are far apart from each other, I won't be listening to both at the same time.

 

[basstuba]

a note the fay smr has changed freq from what is listed on this site if i can find out the order i will post.