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I just seen this message posted to the UXDF Yahoo group. Note sure what to make of it.....


I'm hearing all sorts of Activity on this frequency even the odd CW, with
USN flashing coded (encrypted) messages along with the odd voice ones saying
that :-

"The US Navy Carrier "George Washington" is on Full alert, and in Attack
mode, with full Flt at ready"
Also several repeat messages saying "This is not a drill."

Looks like about midnight tonight (12/20) is the deadline,

Also heard again mainly encrypted USN and USAF on 6.993
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6.639

13.231 With odd Voice EM's

Most Nth Korean frequencies are nonactive (Which is Normal before a Big
Incident), and they keep moving all the HF Mil frequencies.
Plus since they stopped most HF Marine usage in June, to Isolate the South,
very little to be heard there also.

D.....-41.36 S
Nthn Buller, N.Z.
NZRDXL

Yaesu FRG 77OO,.... Kenwood R-1000, Uniden UBCT8, Icom Pcr1000, & various
other receivers....(Inc Degen DE1125)
Tono -550 Comm Decoder....

100 ft long wire, ...20ft Whip,... 6 element Discone, & Several Commercial
VHF/UHF antennas.
 

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My take on it is that the UDXF posting is a bit suspicious and possibly the person reporting might be jumping to conclusions from partial intercepts. The wording is not something I would expect to hear on HF from a US Navy fleet operation.

For example, what is meant by "in attack mode"? That is most certainly not a transmission anyone in a battle group would make. They would be executing a preplanned operation and all units would know their required conditions. The only reports might be "condition set for event alpha", and reports of conditions NOT being set would be the most likely to be sent via those nets. The assumption would be that conditions were set for a preplanned event and you would want reports if they were not.

The quote of "this is not a drill" is again not something you would say when a "deadline" has been approaching for days. The exception might be if you had an inbound hostile track that was not part of a preplanned event. Example, "All stations this is Alpha Whiskey, track 3172, inbound, hot, unopposed, this is not a drill".

Also "full flt at ready". Why would that go out on HF? Lights, flags, UHF, and VHF (both most likely secure) will tell everyone in the battle group, and such a report on HF has no use. The individual nets in the BG; AAW, ASW, EW, etc, would not need that kind of report (ships individual CICs would already have it from VHF/UHF), and those nets are the most likely to be heard.

I am not saying it is impossible, I am just saying that the reported wording is a bit theatrical. It would most certainly be interesting to hear any recordings of such transmissions.

T!
 

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I agree. Never seen anything like it in my life. Sitting on 8.971 here and taking a listen. Things are about to split open over there in Korea so we should see some kind of activity.
 

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HF has been quiet except for the usual ham, broadcast and encrypted RTTY traffic. Not a single peep from SCOPE tonight from what I can tell.
 

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17:13:39 UTC 8.971 MHZ

VERY WAEK SIGNAL BUT CAN HEAR SOMEONE CALLING 711 on this frequency seems to be very busy frequency but the signal is to weak for me to pick up much.
What shoud I put this frequency down as in my list.
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8971 USB has been active this morning w/ Orion 01 and Western Sky in both ANDVT and clear voice.
Both stations are weak at my location. A bit frustrating since I am not terribly far from North Island.
 

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8.971 Mhz

I did a search for 8.971 mhz and this info came back...........

1 Magic, AWACS
2 Darwin,or Sydney or Townsville Australia, RAAF Discrete
3 Jacksonville NAS, fL/USA/KNIP, Fiddle Tech Control
4 Valkenburg EHVB Netherlands, PBV
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Orion 01 now booming in. Still unable to copy Western Sky very well... or at all.

I was parked on this frequency overnight and did not log anything except a test count from unid station. They had a noticeable reverb on their transmission. I have noticed the same effect with Chaser on 13231 kHz but not able to confirm if it was them or not.
 

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hehe...pretty funny that, and more to question the intercepts.

The George Washington and its battle group returned to its forward deployed home port, in Japan, on Dec 14, and is expected to stay there until after the new year. So, when the person reporting this made his report the GW was by the pier, with a half crew on board.

There are various unconfirmed reports that the GW is again back at sea at this minute, as of about 24 hours ago, but I think that is pretty unlikely, the GW had put in on the 14th after an extended at sea period, and would likely have required some small refit/repl before returning to sea. However, the GW Facebook page has not had an entry from the GW in 24 hours, so it is possible.

Someone is yanking someone elses chain me thinks.

T!
 
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I sent an email to the guy to see if he has a recording.
Audio clips are the best way to clear things up :)
 

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I just seen this message posted to the UXDF Yahoo group. Note sure what to make of it.....

"The US Navy Carrier "George Washington" is on Full alert, and in Attack
mode, with full Flt at ready"
Also several repeat messages saying "This is not a drill."


I used to talk like that on HF -- my CB radio -- back when I was 13 years of age & pretending to be the skipper of a USN aircraft carrier, sending my battle group to war.

8971 (used to be 8972 for decades) has been a USN/NATO Safety of Flight channel for a long time, & has had a huge amount of fascinating traffic on it related to IFEs, counter-narcotics, MAD-MANs (magnetic anomaly detection of submarines), training ops, and the usual mundane flight-following type stuff. The Anti-Submarine Warfare Operations Centers used to hang-out on their own discrete HF channels plus monitor 8972/1, as-did the main East Coast USN P-3 bases like NAS Jax & Brunswick. GOLDENHAWK was a fixed-station very active on 8971. It was the Commander, Patrol Wing FIVE Tactical Support Center (new name for AWSOC) at NAS Brunswick. The HF site was an annex just a couple miles off the base. A lot of the cool stuff that was on 8972 back in the day switched to TADIX-B/TRAP & the other UHF-SATCOM based information exchange networks. I seem to recall the Royal Australian Air Force stuff used to be adjacent on 8973 or 8974 & not right on 8972/8971 but I'm not going to check my logs.


Ya gotta realize that there are a lot of nutjobs who are into the radio hobbies, because it's a fairly passive activity that they can do from home. There are also a lot of newbies that thanks to the Internet these days, can make an authoratative-sounding post somewhere that hundreds of people end-up seeing.

I'm glad & lucky that back in the late '70s/early '80s when I started out, and was making mistakes like thinking the E-3A AWACS planes were ID'ing as "Century ##" (it was SENTRY ##!), or assuming that references I heard to "Wawca" was some guy named Walker (it was "WHCA" - White House Communications Agency), etc. were honest mistakes that I kept to myself, because there was no Internet to post my loggings too.

Craziest of all were the old 1980s days where the "BOOKSHELF" Net was on 13204 or 13205 -- wargame comms between the battlestaff aboard EC-130E Airborne Battlefield Command Control Capsules talking to Tactical Air Control Parties (go ROMADs!), Forward Air Control & Attack aircraft. First time I tuned in, they were giving out locations of Soviet BMPs, T-72s, giving 'Weapons-Free' status to units, locations of downed allied aircraft, etc. & it sounded quite real, plus this was the height of the Evil Empire days, so for the first couple minutes I thought the Big One had finally started & didn't know whether I should just sit at home & monitor until my home was wiped-out, or run out onto the streets & start grabbing women. Good thing I couldn't send out the alert via the Internet... Once one of the TACPs on the ground asked the Battlestaff Director aboard BOOKSHELF what to do about a strange plastic bag with a vile smelling brown substance that had corn kernels embedded in it, I finally decided this was probably an exercise...


OK, enough waltzing down memory lane. My point is there are plenty of innocent new people, as well as complete & utter morons who have been posting on-line & even writing chronically erroneous junk for profit (magazine columns, books/hobbyist guides, etc.) for decades. Anyone with an IQ of at least 100 that's been serious with this hobby can tell them apart, and we need to correct, but help the new guys with the hobby, and expose the others who are either just amazingly stupid, or intellectually lazy (because they have enough groupies that treat their utterances as Gospel, they no longer bother to fact-check their pontifications.

For example, one of these long-time military comms 'experts' who derives his income from the hobby wrote a column about the US military awarding an radio contract to Icom, Inc. Nope! The idiot saw "ICOM" in the DOD press release & didn't comprehend that "ICOM" was a rather common military communications vernacular meaning Intergrated COMsec, meaning the radio had built-in encryption. Instead of even bothering to check with Icom, Inc, he writes his column about how Icom Inc got this contract for the HF radios.... That example is a year or two old, but I don't waste time reading the guy's columns too often, so it's the most recent example I have. :)
 
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