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What I've heard sounds like missle tracking and friend/foe exercises amoung the ships in the strike group. For example, the control ship will ask the others what they received for track xxxx, and if they did not correctly recieve the transmission, they troubleshoot it.
 

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Are these tracking nets utilized to coordinate surface ships and aircraft such as the Navy P-3C Orion in search patterns for hunting subs or missiles from the air? I did notice that 9031kHz is a navy air freq.
 

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Are these tracking nets utilized to coordinate surface ships and aircraft such as the Navy P-3C Orion in search patterns for hunting subs or missiles from the air? I did notice that 9031kHz is a navy air freq.


They're used to coordinate. Could be an anti-air warfare net, concerned about airborne targets, a surface net, or anti-submarine net, all possibly using a variety of air, sea & land-based stations & systems.

Usually what we're hearing on HF & UHF are the Operations Specialists operating their tactical digital displays and ensuring the other assets are receiving the same data. More & more of this traffic is going to SATCOM-based voice & instant-message/chat forums, but HF/UHF are good, low-tech mediums.
 

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Ok thanks for the info Hooligan! Lets hope they never completely stop the use of HF/UHF communications for their training exercises. Its really neat to listen to! Its also what I love the most about this hobby!
 

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Ok thanks for the info Hooligan! Lets hope they never completely stop the use of HF/UHF communications for their training exercises. Its really neat to listen to! Its also what I love the most about this hobby!

I expect HF will be used for this type of stuff for quite a while, as not all allied/friendly ships participating in the Task Force/Group would have access to the satellite nets, even the Inmarsat ones.
 

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HF will always be maintained, as it would be the comm mode to fall back on if the war to end all wars ever happened.
 

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The Omega tanker that went down at Mugu yesterday was for them. So air ops might be a little down now. Unless they can get a replacement dedicated to the group.
 

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Wow, I've seen that same aircraft here in San Antonio at KSAT during many of my previous business trips. It was often parked on the ramp at the airport near the terminal.

This is a serious blow to this company who is based here in San Antonio (my hometown). :( I'm really glad the crew made it out safe.

They only had 3 aircraft in inventory if I remember correctly, so the loss of this aircraft and the optics of the entire incident are bad for Omega.

From what I've heard, Omega is the brain child of a bunch of ex-USN guys who recruited US Air Force pilots and refurbished a past Pan Am 707 and a Kuwaiti DC-10 for air refueling ops. I'm not sure where the other 707 came from.
 

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The crashed bird was B707-123B N707AR, ex-Pan Am (N892PA); the other B707 is N707MQ (ex-Saudi HZ-ACK/HZ-HM3). The KDC-10 is N974VV,
 

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Yeah, up until now they were golden with the DOD. Guys in the fleet love them and have nothing but good things to say about them... I would dare say they like them more than the AF guys. Usually the group has one of them, then one AF tanker rotated. The last year or so they were bringing out two of the Omega jets per op. Typically they are anchored over the water for night ops, or come inland for packages going to one of the two ranges. Sometimes as far as Fallon. Most likely they were taking off for the night ops, which is why they were full. There was virtually nothing else happening at the field when it happened. They got cleared like usual and just never got off the ground.
 

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Sounds like they might have tried to abort the takeoff for some reason, although the one article I scanned didn't go into any details. I'm amazed the crew was able to get out alive.
 

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This ex has been abnormal. I don't think there's been a single inland strike... That I've heard anyway. I've found that certain groups, or certain workups... they sort of dumb down. Sometimes some groups seem to kind of be the 'A team', and they get the real serious training... Then others get more of an abbreviated workup. Same goes for the ARG/ESG groups. I'm not sure if that's due to a shortage in theater and they just want to get them out, or lack of money, or what. Some groups have shortened their workups significantly, to the point where most of the individual ex's are combined into one single abbreviated ex. I've been told that they were thinking of doing that for all the groups, which would mean a lot less training between cruises.
 

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A few secure comms going on right now @ 2320z

You know that US airborne command posts use that freq too, right? They're the only ones I've heard going secure on 9031 over the past week. Sounds like some brand-spanking new E-6B radio ops are on the freq without much adult supervision.
 
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