A little help please

[af4ms]

Hi everyone,

I have had plenty of confusing information over the past couple days trying to figure out what I need. Some of the departments in my area have converted over to Digital and I have resisted upgrading to a digital scanner because of the price. Well, it is time. Looking at Pigeon Forge and Sevierville TN I have noticed the following:

Pigeon Forge uses TACN project 25 phase II - there is a reference underneath the Pigeon Forge section that states NXDN Nexedge 4800 - "Fire also using this system"
Sevierville uses NXDN Nexedge 4800

I have been told that Sevierville is encrypted and is unobtainable. However I have been unable to locate that information. I have had some tell me that I do not need the Nexedge 4800 for Pigeon Forge while others say I do.

So, it really comes down to this. What are the possibilities, and what scanner options are needed for the Sevier county area? Is Sevierville and Sevier county closed? What about Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg? Maybe someone else in this area can confirm what addons to a Phase II scanner are needed. What is working for you in this area? I figured a post here will help me decipher this without spending a few more days on it. I have spoke with three different online scanner retailers and all three have given me different answers. Go figure there....

Thank you for your help in this area.

Doug

 

[doctordialtone]

I have had plenty of confusing information over the past couple days trying to figure out what I need. Some of the departments in my area have converted over to Digital and I have resisted upgrading to a digital scanner because of the price. Well, it is time. Looking at Pigeon Forge and Sevierville TN I have noticed the following:

Are you familiar with the database?

RRDB | Tennessee Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Tennessee (TN)

www.radioreference.com

Here are some listings for scanner models:

Uniden Scanners - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Whistler Scanners - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[af4ms]

Are you familiar with the database?

RRDB | Tennessee Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Tennessee (TN)

www.radioreference.com

Here are some listings for scanner models:

Uniden Scanners - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Whistler Scanners - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Hey Doc,

Thanks for the reply. I am not sure you noticed, but the information I mentioned came from that database. The problem is, the database is vague as to what is required. Does PF use NXDN or not? That is unclear. The Uniden and Whistler scanners are not a problem. The problem is whether or not NXDN is actually required, for say PF. Also, I assume, by looking at the data all of the other areas in the county are dark. I just wanted verification not someone who wants to throw links to what I have already looked at.

Appreciate your time.

D

 

[tvengr]

Here is the information you will need:

Sevier County, Tennessee (TN) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Sevier County, Tennessee (TN)

www.radioreference.com

Land Air Communications (NXDN) Trunking System, Various, Tennessee

Land Air Communications (NXDN) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Tennessee Advanced Communications Network (TACN) Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

Tennessee Advanced Communications Network (TACN) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[chief21]

The OP might do better with the locals on the Tennessee forum page.

 

[tglendye]

The OP might do better with the locals on the Tennessee forum page.

I agree. That area is so chopped up, radio system wise, I would want to talk to someone local to get their input on what to purchase and what can be heard with it.

 

[af4ms]

I did not realize there was a forum devoted to Tennessee. I guess I need to look further before I posted. I think all I need new is how to determine what is dark and what is not. I will post a new question in that forum. Thanks for all the help.

Doug

 

[buddrousa]

Doug
D is Digital and CLEAR
De is Digital with PARTIME ENCRYPTION
DE is Digital with FULLTIME ENCRYPTION
T is Digital P25 Phase 2 in the same format as above.

TN - Sevier County (155) - Public Safety Talkgroups

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
48000	bb80	D	SEVIER CO NET	Sevier County Countywide Net	Interop
48001	bb81	D	PFPD DISP	Pigeon Forge Police Dispatch	Law Dispatch
48002	bb82	D	PFPD TAC 1	Pigeon Forge Police Tac 1	Law Tac
48003	bb83	D	PFPD TAC 2	Pigeon Forge Police Tac 2/Events	Law Tac

TN - Rutherford County (149) - Public Safety Talkgroups

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
30400	76c0	DE	74-RC-EMA	County EMA	Emergency Ops
48168	bc28	T	74-LFD-DISP	LaVergne Fire - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
48169	bc29	TE	74-LFD-2	LaVergne Fire - Channel 2	Fire-Tac
48161	bc21	T	74-LPD-DISP-1	LaVergne Police - Dispatch 1	Law Dispatch
48162	bc22	T	74-LPD-DISP-2	LaVergne Police - Dispatch 2	Law Dispatch
48163	bc23	TE	74-LPD-3	LaVergne Police - Channel 3	Law Tac
48164	bc24	TE	74-LPD-4	LaVergne Police - Channel 4	Law Tac
48165	bc25	TE	74-LPD-5	LaVergne Police - Channel 5	Law Tac
48166	bc26	TE	74-LPD-6	LaVergne Police - Channel 6	Law Tac
48167	bc27	TE	74-LPD-7	LaVergne Police - Channel 7	Law Tac
30316	766c	D	74-SFD DISP	Smyrna Fire - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
30317	766d	D	74-SFD OPS	Smyrna Fire - Operations	Fire-Tac
30325	7675	D	74-SFD CODES	Smyrna Fire - Inspections	Fire-Talk
30300	765c	D	74-SPD DISP1	Smyrna Police - Dispatch 1	Law Dispatch
30301	765d	D	74-SPD DISP2	Smyrna Police - Dispatch 2	Law Dispatch
30302	765e	D	74-SPD TALK1	Smyrna Police - Talk 1	Law Talk
30303	765f	D	74-SPD TALK2	Smyrna Police - Talk 2	Law Talk
30307	7663	D	74-SPD-COMMAND	Smyrna Police - Command	Law Tac
30308	7664	D	74-SPD- DETECTV	Smyrna Police - Detective	Law Tac
30318	766e	D	74-SPD NARC	Smyrna Police - Narcotics	Law Tac
30306	7662	D	74-SPD SWAT	Smyrna Police - SWAT	Law Tac
30312	7668	D	74-SPD TRAIN	Smyrna Police - Training	Law Tac
30315	766b	D	74-SPD-PATCH	Smyrna Police - Patch Channel	Interop
30313	7669	D	74-SPD EVENT-1	Smyrna Police - Special Events 1	Law Tac
30314	766a	D	74-SPD EVENT-2	Smyrna Police - Special Event 2	Law Tac
30321	7671	D	74-SUTIL 1	Smyrna Utilities - Primary	Public Works
30322	7672	D	74-SUTIL WTO	Smyrna Utilities - Water Treatment Operations	Public Works
30329	7679	D	74-SDPW ROAD	Smyrna Public Works - Streets	Public Works

THIS IS THE NXDN SYSTEM BELOW
Sevier County Law Enforcement Talkgroups

DEC	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
1101	De	SCSO-DISP	Sevier County Sheriff - Dispatch (Also Pittman Center Police)	Law Dispatch
1401	De	GPD-DISP	Gatlinburg Police - Dispatch	Law Dispatch

Sevier County Fire Talkgroups

DEC	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
1251	De	SFD-DISPATCH	Sevierville Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1261	De	PFFD-DISP	Pigeon Forge Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1281	De	SCVFD-DISP	Sevier County Volunteer Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1321	De	PMVFD-DISP	Pitman Center Volunteer Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1331	De	EMFD-DISP	English Mountian Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1351	De	NKFD-DISP	Northview Kodak Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1371	De	WVVFD	Wears Valley Volunteer Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1701	De	GFD-DISP	Gatlinburg Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch

EMS and Medical Talkgroups

DEC	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
1501	De	SC EMS-OPS	Sevier County Ambulance Service	EMS Dispatch

 

[af4ms]

Doug
D is Digital and CLEAR
De is Digital with PARTIME ENCRYPTION
DE is Digital with FULLTIME ENCRYPTION
T is Digital P25 Phase 2 in the same format as above.

TN - Sevier County (155) - Public Safety Talkgroups

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
48000	bb80	D	SEVIER CO NET	Sevier County Countywide Net	Interop
48001	bb81	D	PFPD DISP	Pigeon Forge Police Dispatch	Law Dispatch
48002	bb82	D	PFPD TAC 1	Pigeon Forge Police Tac 1	Law Tac
48003	bb83	D	PFPD TAC 2	Pigeon Forge Police Tac 2/Events	Law Tac

TN - Rutherford County (149) - Public Safety Talkgroups

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
30400	76c0	DE	74-RC-EMA	County EMA	Emergency Ops
48168	bc28	T	74-LFD-DISP	LaVergne Fire - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
48169	bc29	TE	74-LFD-2	LaVergne Fire - Channel 2	Fire-Tac
48161	bc21	T	74-LPD-DISP-1	LaVergne Police - Dispatch 1	Law Dispatch
48162	bc22	T	74-LPD-DISP-2	LaVergne Police - Dispatch 2	Law Dispatch
48163	bc23	TE	74-LPD-3	LaVergne Police - Channel 3	Law Tac
48164	bc24	TE	74-LPD-4	LaVergne Police - Channel 4	Law Tac
48165	bc25	TE	74-LPD-5	LaVergne Police - Channel 5	Law Tac
48166	bc26	TE	74-LPD-6	LaVergne Police - Channel 6	Law Tac
48167	bc27	TE	74-LPD-7	LaVergne Police - Channel 7	Law Tac
30316	766c	D	74-SFD DISP	Smyrna Fire - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
30317	766d	D	74-SFD OPS	Smyrna Fire - Operations	Fire-Tac
30325	7675	D	74-SFD CODES	Smyrna Fire - Inspections	Fire-Talk
30300	765c	D	74-SPD DISP1	Smyrna Police - Dispatch 1	Law Dispatch
30301	765d	D	74-SPD DISP2	Smyrna Police - Dispatch 2	Law Dispatch
30302	765e	D	74-SPD TALK1	Smyrna Police - Talk 1	Law Talk
30303	765f	D	74-SPD TALK2	Smyrna Police - Talk 2	Law Talk
30307	7663	D	74-SPD-COMMAND	Smyrna Police - Command	Law Tac
30308	7664	D	74-SPD- DETECTV	Smyrna Police - Detective	Law Tac
30318	766e	D	74-SPD NARC	Smyrna Police - Narcotics	Law Tac
30306	7662	D	74-SPD SWAT	Smyrna Police - SWAT	Law Tac
30312	7668	D	74-SPD TRAIN	Smyrna Police - Training	Law Tac
30315	766b	D	74-SPD-PATCH	Smyrna Police - Patch Channel	Interop
30313	7669	D	74-SPD EVENT-1	Smyrna Police - Special Events 1	Law Tac
30314	766a	D	74-SPD EVENT-2	Smyrna Police - Special Event 2	Law Tac
30321	7671	D	74-SUTIL 1	Smyrna Utilities - Primary	Public Works
30322	7672	D	74-SUTIL WTO	Smyrna Utilities - Water Treatment Operations	Public Works
30329	7679	D	74-SDPW ROAD	Smyrna Public Works - Streets	Public Works

THIS IS THE NXDN SYSTEM BELOW
Sevier County Law Enforcement Talkgroups

DEC	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
1101	De	SCSO-DISP	Sevier County Sheriff - Dispatch (Also Pittman Center Police)	Law Dispatch
1401	De	GPD-DISP	Gatlinburg Police - Dispatch	Law Dispatch

Sevier County Fire Talkgroups

DEC	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
1251	De	SFD-DISPATCH	Sevierville Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1261	De	PFFD-DISP	Pigeon Forge Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1281	De	SCVFD-DISP	Sevier County Volunteer Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1321	De	PMVFD-DISP	Pitman Center Volunteer Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1331	De	EMFD-DISP	English Mountian Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1351	De	NKFD-DISP	Northview Kodak Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1371	De	WVVFD	Wears Valley Volunteer Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
1701	De	GFD-DISP	Gatlinburg Fire Department - Dispatch	Fire Dispatch

EMS and Medical Talkgroups

DEC	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
1501	De	SC EMS-OPS	Sevier County Ambulance Service	EMS Dispatch

Perfect! Now, the final question. How do I determine if something requires the NXDN software upgrade or not?

Thanks,
Doug

 

[buddrousa]

Look in the Database at the MODE
Obion County

Obion County Regional Public Safety System Motorola Type II Smartnet

All County and Municipal Public Safety and Operations use this system.

Frequency	Input	License	Type	Tone	Alpha Tag	Description	Mode	Tag
460.15000	465.15000	WNMU919	RM	411 DPL	OCSD DISPATCH	Sheriff's Department - Dispatch	FMN	Law Dispatch
453.75000	458.75000	WNMU919	RM	10 RAN	OCSD BACKUP	Sheriff's Department - Backup Repeater	NXDN	Law Tac
453.20000	458.20000	WNMU919	RM	156.7 PL	OCSD JAIL	Sheriff's Department - County Jail	FMNE	Corrections
855.48750	810.48750	WQCW614	RM		OCSD TPTNVL	Sheriff's Department - Tiptonville	FMN	Law Tac
859.96250	814.96250	WQCW614	RM		OCSD UNION	Sheriff's Department - Union City	FMN	Law Tac
860.96250	815.96250	WQCW614	RM		OCSD S FULTON	Sheriff's Department - South Fulton	FMN	Law Tac
154.19000	155.91000	WNMX256	RM	77.0 PL	HORNBEAK FD	Hornbeak Fire Department	FMN	Fire Dispatch
155.55000	153.74750	WPZW934	RM	146.2 PL	OBION FD	Obion Fire Department	FMN	Fire Dispatch
154.40000	153.89000	WNCY237	RM	167.9 PL	TROY FD	Troy Fire Department	FMN	Fire Dispatch
462.97500	467.97500	WNGP474	RM	131.8 PL	OBION RESCUE	Rescue Squads / EMS	FMN	EMS Dispatch
155.40000	151.40750	WNLL434	RM	155 DPL	BAPTIST EMS DSP	Baptist EMS Dispatch (Obion County)	FMN	EMS Dispatch
151.04000	156.04500	KCI978	RM		OBION HIGHWAYS	Highway Department	FMN	Public Works
453.47500			BM	114.8 PL	OBION BUSES	School Buses	FMN	Schools

 

[af4ms]

thank you @buddrousa ! You have been a tremendous help.