rhattala
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What are they on? are they on there own system or on the state system? anybody listen to them?
Acension Parish Police
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Mick
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Howdy. I see there is lots of info here at Radio Reference, here's the URL:
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&ctid=1111
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&ctid=1111
rhattala
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Ok Smarty, the reason I ask is because they Have talk groups under the STATE and under there own system. Thats what i want to know which one?
cellblock776
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They WERE on the State TRS but once they got their own Motorola TRS up and running they made the switch to it. They are preparing to move again, to the LATIE system as soon as it becomes operational in Ascension. My little birdies tell me they will be encrypted when they make the switch to the LATIE TRS.
rhattala
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Is everyone going to be encrypted?
cellblock776
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I know the Ascension SO and Gonzo PD have stated that they will be working fully encrypted. Much of their traffic already happens via their MDTs now. Same thing happend in St John the Baptist Parish in 2005 although they have been transmitting in the clear for the past week or so. Same thing happended when New Roads PD and Pointe Coupee Parish moved to a PROVOICE system. There are entire States moving to Opensky systems which are unmonitorable.
Face it, scanning is not as simple as it was back a few years ago when you just entered a frequency or two into a scanner and listened to your whole town. Lots of departments are using their Homeland Security grants to purchase radio systems and units with encryption capabilities. That's why there are sites like this one, Radio Reference, and Groups like the one I run on Yahell. So that people in the hobby can share their knowledge and information with each other.
Face it, scanning is not as simple as it was back a few years ago when you just entered a frequency or two into a scanner and listened to your whole town. Lots of departments are using their Homeland Security grants to purchase radio systems and units with encryption capabilities. That's why there are sites like this one, Radio Reference, and Groups like the one I run on Yahell. So that people in the hobby can share their knowledge and information with each other.
rhattala
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well i thought we were going to beable to monitor the LATIE system
I think they have switched to LATIE. I have had my scanner for about a week with everything from RR on it and I have only picked up a couple of transmissions. Going to work this morning, there was 3 APSO cars with a car pulled over at the Dutchtown light and I did not hear a thing about it. Well, at least I still get the FD and surrounding parishes.
cellblock776
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I don't see how they could have moved to LATIE since the nearest tower is in LaPlace. LATIE hasn't reached Ascension Parish yet.
EDIT- Listeing to ASO and Gonzo PD right now. No problem hearing them running license/ID checks. Recording the audio as a wav file on my computer using the Scanner Recorder software and will monitor for the next few hours to see if anything has changed.
EDIT- Listeing to ASO and Gonzo PD right now. No problem hearing them running license/ID checks. Recording the audio as a wav file on my computer using the Scanner Recorder software and will monitor for the next few hours to see if anything has changed.
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Steve, do you have a frequency for Ascension that is not on RR database. I think I have everything programmed into my 246t, but can't APSO or Gonzales. Picking up everything else around the surrounding parishes and state. I will recheck my program with RR. Hate to think I just bought a new radio that can't pick up my own area. Oh well, I'll just have to haul more sugar cane and buy another radio that will pick up the new system. I know they will have one by then.
cellblock776
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glrpy,
I'm not using anything special that isn't in the RR database. I'm control channel trackinig the Ascension Parish system and getting them fine. The scanner is an old Uniden BC 780XLT with audio out to my computer for recording. After my post this morning I set the recorder and now, 12 hours later, there's over 3 hours of audio from today. Sounds pretty normal to me. Your 246 should be able to pick up ASO and Gonzo PD as long as it's locking on the control channel.
I'm not using anything special that isn't in the RR database. I'm control channel trackinig the Ascension Parish system and getting them fine. The scanner is an old Uniden BC 780XLT with audio out to my computer for recording. After my post this morning I set the recorder and now, 12 hours later, there's over 3 hours of audio from today. Sounds pretty normal to me. Your 246 should be able to pick up ASO and Gonzo PD as long as it's locking on the control channel.
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cellblock776
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Nope. Not yet. I need to ask around.
ssb_dxer
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So if APSO and GPD go to 700MHz Encrytped, do you think any manufacturers will come out with anything that will be able de-code it?
cellblock776
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I'm sure someone at Uniden is going to risk prison time and hefty fines to put a scanner on the market to break encryption. They can afford to pay the fines. And the dealers like Scanner Master will be glad to risk being shut down for selling you that scanner.
Insert Irony Mode... WEG!
ssb_dxer
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cellblock776 said:
I decided to edit this post so there wouldn't be any flaming. Steve, I really didn't know if offering encryption decoding scanners would be illegal or not. That is why I asked.
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loumaag
Silent Key - Aug 2014
Sometimes it seems the question that makes so much sense to the person asking is ridiculed by those who already know the answer. There is a reason this happens, but is still improper. Bear with me for a moment while I climb on a soap box.
To the Old Hands:
Consider questions like "How do you break encryption?" to be an honest search for an answer, especially if you see the person has posted little. Don't think, just because the subject comes up so often that anyone asking it is "trolling", first consider that it is asked from a point of ignorance. Supply the correct answer, leaving the sarcasm out. If someone is trolling, let one of us know. If you are an old hand, you know how to do that and don't turn on the burner. :wink:
To the New Guys:
Don't ask every question that comes to mind. Consider that the people who have occupied these boards for any length of time have seen just about every newbie question asked hundreds of times. Look through the various forums, use the search engine, read the Wiki information. Then if those resources don't answer the newbie question you have, ask away; hopefully you will get a thoughtful answer to a thoughtful question.
Off the soap box now.
To ssb_dxer:
Lots of things are illegal to monitor, listen to, or even attempt to listen to in the US. A partial list of those are: Encrypted transmissions, telephone conversations (with some exceptions), remote broadcast feeds, Mobile Data Terminals (or MDT's, MDC's, ect.), and pagers. This list doesn't include all that protection dealing with satellite broadcasts, which are covered under a different set of laws (but still illegal), just the ones you might be interested in from the Land Mobile Radio Services. Nothing seems to generate more words than someone mentioning that he would like to monitor one of the above things. Try to stay clear of the word-wars.
To the Old Hands:
Consider questions like "How do you break encryption?" to be an honest search for an answer, especially if you see the person has posted little. Don't think, just because the subject comes up so often that anyone asking it is "trolling", first consider that it is asked from a point of ignorance. Supply the correct answer, leaving the sarcasm out. If someone is trolling, let one of us know. If you are an old hand, you know how to do that and don't turn on the burner. :wink:
To the New Guys:
Don't ask every question that comes to mind. Consider that the people who have occupied these boards for any length of time have seen just about every newbie question asked hundreds of times. Look through the various forums, use the search engine, read the Wiki information. Then if those resources don't answer the newbie question you have, ask away; hopefully you will get a thoughtful answer to a thoughtful question.
Off the soap box now.
To ssb_dxer:
Lots of things are illegal to monitor, listen to, or even attempt to listen to in the US. A partial list of those are: Encrypted transmissions, telephone conversations (with some exceptions), remote broadcast feeds, Mobile Data Terminals (or MDT's, MDC's, ect.), and pagers. This list doesn't include all that protection dealing with satellite broadcasts, which are covered under a different set of laws (but still illegal), just the ones you might be interested in from the Land Mobile Radio Services. Nothing seems to generate more words than someone mentioning that he would like to monitor one of the above things. Try to stay clear of the word-wars.
ssb_dxer
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Lou,
Well I appreciate the reply. I am just new to this forum, not others. I have also been into scanning since the early '90s.
I'll get on my soapbox for a minute:
I guess it was just a dumb question to ask, or maybe not. Since 700MHz trunking is new, and encryption has not been used on the 800MHz trunked system in my area (same as cellblock) that I know of, I just thought it would have been easier to ask a question and get a reasonable answer from a local that knows my area.
I guess next time I have questions I'll just research it myself as I usually do, though I thought thats what forums like these were made for; information and communication.
Seems a lot better than having to worry if the question I want to ask is going to bring out sarcasim from other fellow scanner enthusiasts that feel I am not worthy of a straight answer because of the number of my posts, or should I wait until I have over 200 posts before I can ask and not get sarcastic replies.
BTW, My first or second post on this board was to help out a guy that was getting bashed because he didn't know the difference between RG-11 and RG-6 cable, fittings, etc., and was just wanting info on what to use for an outside antenna to monitor VHF.
There are just too many other things going on in this world more important to get upset over than a question in a forum.
Maybe some of the posters that you are referring too need to get up from their computer chair and go outside and get some fresh air.
I'll get off of my soapbox now.
PEACE
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Well I appreciate the reply. I am just new to this forum, not others. I have also been into scanning since the early '90s.
I'll get on my soapbox for a minute:
I guess it was just a dumb question to ask, or maybe not. Since 700MHz trunking is new, and encryption has not been used on the 800MHz trunked system in my area (same as cellblock) that I know of, I just thought it would have been easier to ask a question and get a reasonable answer from a local that knows my area.
I guess next time I have questions I'll just research it myself as I usually do, though I thought thats what forums like these were made for; information and communication.
Seems a lot better than having to worry if the question I want to ask is going to bring out sarcasim from other fellow scanner enthusiasts that feel I am not worthy of a straight answer because of the number of my posts, or should I wait until I have over 200 posts before I can ask and not get sarcastic replies.
BTW, My first or second post on this board was to help out a guy that was getting bashed because he didn't know the difference between RG-11 and RG-6 cable, fittings, etc., and was just wanting info on what to use for an outside antenna to monitor VHF.
There are just too many other things going on in this world more important to get upset over than a question in a forum.
Maybe some of the posters that you are referring too need to get up from their computer chair and go outside and get some fresh air.
I'll get off of my soapbox now.
PEACE
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loumaag
Silent Key - Aug 2014
A reasonable point, which is why I got on my soap box earlier. As for Steve being a "local", well although I live in Houston now, I played road warrior every AM and PM on a commute from LaPlace to Baton Rouge and back every workday for most of the 1990's. I know well the area you are local to and unless you are a newer ham, I am guessing we may have talked at one time or another. My frustration level is running kind of high right now since I have not been back to LaPlace (where I own a house) since the storm and no one has come forward with a BCD396T and said they are monitoring the LATIE system yet. I guess sooner or later I will get there on a visit (my son lives in the house) and see for myself.ssb_dxer said:
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