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So, I hear New York working a specific flight such as UAL1526 and I plug it into FlightAware and I can track it. But, If I try ADSBExchange and plug the flight into the Search bar it doesn't find the flight. I haven't been able to find ANY flight I find in FlightAware. I looking for help. Thanks.
 

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Thanks for the reply! I didn't know that I had to be in the area of the flight. I just tried it and found the flight.
 

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It seems counter-intuative. I want to know where a flight is, but I can't find it unless I know where it's at.
I agree, searching for a flight number should return a result and center you over the geographic area, as Google Maps does.
 

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It seems counter-intuative. I want to know where a flight is, but I can't find it unless I know where it's at.

ADSBExchange is better for searching planes (tail numbers and Hex codes) rather than flight numbers, it's database is based on the plane info rather than flight info. If you were to search a flight hex code (using the filter in the URL ?icao=Axxxxx) it would find the plane for you.

Each of these tracking sites have there own unique benefits, which is why I use all three, ADSBx for unlisted (LADD or PIA not available on the other two sites) and military flights, FlightAware for alerts, and Flightradar24 for tracking commercial flights.
 
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It seems counter-intuative. I want to know where a flight is, but I can't find it unless I know where it's at.
If you're looking it up using Flightaware first, you know exactly where it's at. Of course flightaware doesn't cover all aircraft.
 

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Not all tracking sites track military aircraft. ADSBExchange does. Not sure about the others?
 

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Yes ads-b does track some military but not always, i've been watching flight here in northern mi near Grayling Ranges an i can visualy see the plane an nothing will show on ads-b! AR track occasionaly will show up. China Biden balloon shoot down saw all on ads-b
 

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All mil aircraft can can go 'dark' and one would not expect to see them. That said tracking sites can also filter prior to publishing.

If an aircraft is not reporting it's position via ADSB then MLAT (requires at least 3 receivers) can be used.

I'm certainly not an expert on this but if a MIL aircraft goes dark then only the military and independent radar tracking stations can see it, or the aircraft is reporting it's position via via encrypted radio and satellite links.
 

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Ya, I honestly didn't realize this when I subscribed to it however, it's pretty good on most commercial flights at least.
I use Flight Radar now for verification of military aircraft and callsigns. I used to be a feeder, but their $250 box went kaput on me!
 

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All mil aircraft can can go 'dark' and one would not expect to see them. That said tracking sites can also filter prior to publishing.

If an aircraft is not reporting it's position via ADSB then MLAT (requires at least 3 receivers) can be used.

I'm certainly not an expert on this but if a MIL aircraft goes dark then only the military and independent radar tracking stations can see it, or the aircraft is reporting it's position via via encrypted radio and satellite links.
No, I mean they BLOCK some of them completely. It's not like the aircraft turned its' transponder off...
 

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Flightaware and FR24 use satellite information from the FAA to fill out their tracking. In order to have access to that information they have to agree to filter out any LADD aircraft. ADS-B Exchange doesn't use FAA data, so they don't have to filter their feeds. I feed for all three (and several others).

As for trying to find a specific commercial flight, FA and FR24 are your best bets. ADSBX isn't really designed for the typical flight tracking things that you'd use FA or FR24 for. It's an enthusiast site where the users are more interested in seeing everything that's out there or a specific aircraft, rather than a specific commercial flight route. It's just running a customized version of tar1090, which is the same visualization software most feeders use to view their own data.
 

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If an aircraft is not reporting it's position via ADSB then MLAT (requires at least 3 receivers) can be used.
I've never understood why the radar systems used by air traffic controllers, that can detect any flying airborn object, are filtered so on their screens they only see objects that has a transponder signal. Everything that pilots see, like weather ballons, UFO's, flock of birds, large R/C models flying high and I don't know about those wing or parachute gliders with a motor, are not displayed on radar screens and ATC can then not warn pilots about a flock of birds or other dangerous objects.

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I've never understood why the radar systems used by air traffic controllers, that can detect any flying airborn object, are filtered so on their screens they only see objects that has a transponder signal.
I’m certainly no expert, but I’m pretty sure controllers still have regular, unfiltered (primary surveillance) radar available to them. Contacts without a transponder wouldn’t have additional data, but the contact should still be visible on their scopes. There’s still a ton of GA aircraft that don’t have transponders, and I’ve heard military aircraft asking for radar signatures from civilian towers before. Controllers can choose what information to display on their scopes, but it’s all there if they need it.
 

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360radar (Welcome to 360Radar.co.uk) uses ADSB, MLAT and FLARM to track aircraft. They say

"360Radar can show you the locations of small light aircraft as well as most military aircraft."

However this is a UK / Ireland dedicated service / coverage, and requires subscription after the 24 hour free trail period ends.
 
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