AES Keyloading

[2wayfreq]

I may be in a position to have my G4 Keyloaded (Authorized) if some agency encryption happens. I know about the Key Utility to configure they key set. But can you load AES Keys directly from a KVL4000 to the G4? Is there a special cable? I need the steps.

Thanks

 

[WX4JCW]

Keyloading is via Unication software only not KVL, however if its agency authorized itll be up to the radio shop to be willing to do it, if they dont use the software correctly and password the key files they are not secure at all

 

[scannerboy02]

This is interesting to me because one of the larger police departments in my area is planning to go fully encrypted at some point but they want to allow media to continue to have access to the channels. One of the suggestions was to program Unications with the key to accomplish this.

 

[2wayfreq]

Keyloading is via Unication software only not KVL, however if its agency authorized itll be up to the radio shop to be willing to do it, if they dont use the software correctly and password the key files they are not secure at all

Ok, let's say most of this part is already good to go. I need to be able to extract Let's say.. "Key 262" from the KVL4000 as a key file. How do you transfer it off of the KVL to a PC?

 

[KevinC]

Ok, let's say most of this part is already good to go. I need to be able to extract Let's say.. "Key 262" from the KVL4000 as a key file. How do you transfer it off of the KVL to a PC?

You don't. I'm guessing the key variable isn't written down and securely stored somewhere?

 

[N4DES]

Ok, let's say most of this part is already good to go. I need to be able to extract Let's say.. "Key 262" from the KVL4000 as a key file. How do you transfer it off of the KVL to a PC?

That would be a FIPS violation and can't be extracted or decoded the way you describe.

 

[2wayfreq]

I see. Well never mind then, I'll ask elsewhere.

 

[RaleighGuy]

I see. Well never mind then, I'll ask elsewhere.

Ask in a million places, but these men have told you the facts about dealing with KVL4000 sorry you don't like the answers, but that is how it is.

 

[KC5AJP]

Keyloading is via Unication software only not KVL, however if its agency authorized itll be up to the radio shop to be willing to do it, if they dont use the software correctly and password the key files they are not secure at all

I hope this changes. One of the agencies I monitor (with authorization) uses AES and the encryption was established before our time. The key is only in the KVL so it can be shared and loaded in our Motorola radios, but no on knows the key to type it in the Unication Utility. Our only option would be to reprogram ever radio and...yeah, that's not happing so I carry a spare Moto for this agency only. I like the Unication as I can monitor the neighboring departments while I keep my radios on my dispatch channel.

 

[kf8yk]

The KFDtool can recover an unknown key from a KVL using the MR emulate mode.

 

[KevinC]

The KFDtool can recover an unknown key from a KVL using the MR emulate mode.

Shh...

 

[KC5AJP]

The KFDtool can recover an unknown key from a KVL using the MR emulate mode.

🤐

 

[mdsxfire]

So going back to part of the original question is if I have the code, whether memorized written down scratched on a wall…does anyone have the step by step instructions of how to get that from the encryption software into the pager

 

[Firebuff66]

The directions are in the Unication Utility software. If you have the key its simple. open the software and follow the instructions