Just thought some may like to comment on this story.We should never forget these children. http://www.kentucky.com/454/story/327251.html Watch the slide show.
After 50 yrs.Floyd county bus crash:Tribute
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That is unreal. I had never heard about this. I remember the carrollton bus crash... that is just unreal, god bless the families
Yea worst bus crash in us history..Terriblejcpd9720 said:
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I wasn't very old when that happened, but I remember it.... My family lived in the eastern part of Kentucky.... I can remember years later frequently driving by the spot where that bus plunged into the Levisa Fork.... it isn't U.S. 23 anymore, it is KY 1428 I believe, since 23 was four-laned...
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I was talking about school bus crashes only the worst in U.S historynewsalan said:
Those were school buses. What I found sad, is the people don't talk about it 50 years later, and mourn in private, instead of coming together.timjude said:
And that one lady, all the stuff she kept unopened that could helped the poor in the area, and probably still could.
I don't know if the Texas crash was caused by a DUI driver but if it wasn't then Carroll Co. was the deadlist drunk driving crash in U.S. history, which makes me wonder why don't we have the toughest drunk driving laws in the country instead of some of the weakest?
Oh and I just have to say...
DUI CRASHES ARE NOT ACCIDENTS, THEY ARE PREVENTABLE!!!
Oh and I just have to say...
DUI CRASHES ARE NOT ACCIDENTS, THEY ARE PREVENTABLE!!!
Jim Daniels (K4LCK silent key) did the broadcast remote from that accident scene. According to him that was the first radio remote broadcast in Kentucky. I don't recall the callsign for the radio station but for anyone that is a long-time resident of Eastern Kentucky his radio name was "Jim Dandy"
Jim was my father-in-law.
Most certainly a sad day in Floyd County history and one hopefully no one will ever soon forget.
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Jim was my father-in-law.
Most certainly a sad day in Floyd County history and one hopefully no one will ever soon forget.
73
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chris
kq4z
The 1988 Carrollton bus crash happened during the time I worked for the state fire marshal's office and I was one of the three involved in this fire from the SMFO. There were 66 or 67 people on the bus. Of that, 24 children and 3 adults were killed due to the fire. Of the remainder, only 6 escaped the fire uninjured.
There were several improvements to school bus safety that came from this incident. They include additional exits with better marking of them (reflector tape), roof escape hatches, seat materials that do not support combustion as easily and the use of diesel rather than gasoline, as fuel.
The problem was that these recommendations applied only to a new bus. There was no requirement to upgrade the existing due to cost. The bus involved was owned by a church who purchased the bus from a school system after living its life there.
Also since then, but not directly as a result of, Kentucky lowered its DUI level from .10 to .08.
Unfortunately, Kentucky (and I'm sure we aren't the only ones) takes better care of concrete and squirrels than they do humans. If I'm a truck driver with a too heavy load, there's a guy in a car with blue lights, a badge and gun, who will issue me a citation and I go immediately before the judge. If I'm stressed because of this encounter, I get my gun and go squirrel hunting, even though it's out of season. There's another guy around who also has a car with blue lights, a badge and a gun, who will issue me a citation and I go immediately before the judge again.
Now I got a lot of fines to pay, so I need some money. Fortunately I own a bar on the side. I can cram that place with twice the legal number of people, lock doors so people won't sneak out on the bill. The fire marshal doesn't have blue lights, perhaps a badge in his pocket, and certainly no gun is carried. The fire marshal has to go through a lengthy process to get me before a judge (when I did the state fire marshal thing for 12 years, only once did a case go to court, and then nothing was done to the guy). Also I've seen just one administrative fine of $250 issued after a principal repeatedly locked exit doors.
There were several improvements to school bus safety that came from this incident. They include additional exits with better marking of them (reflector tape), roof escape hatches, seat materials that do not support combustion as easily and the use of diesel rather than gasoline, as fuel.
The problem was that these recommendations applied only to a new bus. There was no requirement to upgrade the existing due to cost. The bus involved was owned by a church who purchased the bus from a school system after living its life there.
Also since then, but not directly as a result of, Kentucky lowered its DUI level from .10 to .08.
Unfortunately, Kentucky (and I'm sure we aren't the only ones) takes better care of concrete and squirrels than they do humans. If I'm a truck driver with a too heavy load, there's a guy in a car with blue lights, a badge and gun, who will issue me a citation and I go immediately before the judge. If I'm stressed because of this encounter, I get my gun and go squirrel hunting, even though it's out of season. There's another guy around who also has a car with blue lights, a badge and a gun, who will issue me a citation and I go immediately before the judge again.
Now I got a lot of fines to pay, so I need some money. Fortunately I own a bar on the side. I can cram that place with twice the legal number of people, lock doors so people won't sneak out on the bill. The fire marshal doesn't have blue lights, perhaps a badge in his pocket, and certainly no gun is carried. The fire marshal has to go through a lengthy process to get me before a judge (when I did the state fire marshal thing for 12 years, only once did a case go to court, and then nothing was done to the guy). Also I've seen just one administrative fine of $250 issued after a principal repeatedly locked exit doors.
And it's that sort of careless disregard for the law and people's safety in general that got those people killed in that New England night club fire a few years ago.
right Spot Out of Tragic Floyd County School Bus Accident in 1958 Save Email Print
Posted: 6:55 PM Feb 28, 2008
Last Updated: 6:55 PM Feb 28, 2008
Reporter: Bill Murray
Email Address: bill.murray@wsaz.com
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The Floyd County Rescue Squad will be celebrating a milestone anniversary this spring. It'll be 50 years old. The squad was formed by two men who helped in the icy waters off Route 23 in Floyd County, where 27 people died in a school bus crash on February 28, 1958.
The chief's name is Timothy Cooley. He says, "This rescue squad was a blessing from God."
Check out the coincidences surrounding that bus crash and the number 27.
There were 27 people killed, the bus number was 27, the bus driver was 27 years old, and the Floyd County Rescue Squad was founded on April 27th, 1958.
To learn more, check out Steve Hensley's report from Floyd County
Posted: 6:55 PM Feb 28, 2008
Last Updated: 6:55 PM Feb 28, 2008
Reporter: Bill Murray
Email Address: bill.murray@wsaz.com
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The Floyd County Rescue Squad will be celebrating a milestone anniversary this spring. It'll be 50 years old. The squad was formed by two men who helped in the icy waters off Route 23 in Floyd County, where 27 people died in a school bus crash on February 28, 1958.
The chief's name is Timothy Cooley. He says, "This rescue squad was a blessing from God."
Check out the coincidences surrounding that bus crash and the number 27.
There were 27 people killed, the bus number was 27, the bus driver was 27 years old, and the Floyd County Rescue Squad was founded on April 27th, 1958.
To learn more, check out Steve Hensley's report from Floyd County
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