As for the AFC, I hear them all the time on AWIN, and only hear them on VHF for some fire activities and interopping with fire depts that dont have AWIN.... There are still FAR to many FD's that not only cant talk to other PS agencies in thier OWN counties, but forget interop with State or other counties unless the one or two EMC's are able to go to a scene with an AWIN radio. At least ALL the SO's, and most hospitals have AWIN gear. When the $$$ is availabe, we do know EVERY hospital, and EVERY EMS/Ambulance agency will have AWIN radios.... Who knows when some of the smaller FD's will be able to afford to get at least two AWIN radios each.