Amador & Rumsey fires

[RolnCode3]

Alright. Who's holding out on us. Anyone know what (if any) frequencies/channels are being used for either of these? CDF, OES, USFS??? I'm new to the fire stuff (other than urban), so i don't know who/where to listen. Also, talked to a Sac Metro firefighter, and he said he didn't think they're actively fighting either of them yet. Anyone heard different?

 

[selgaran]

Also, talked to a Sac Metro firefighter, and he said he didn't think they're actively fighting either of them yet. Anyone heard different?

Huh? CDF and USFS don't sit around and wait...they would've been all over these fires since the initial call...

For incident info:

http://www.fire.ca.gov/cdf/incidents/

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/fire/intel/ncsc/situation/sitreport.htm

The Rumsey fire would have been initially dispatched on CDF LNU (Lake-Napa-Sonoma Ranger Unit) East - 151.340 and also on Yolo County Green Fire 154.445. Once CDF got enough resources into the area, and realized it was going to be a working fire, they cut the locals loose, and shifted into full-blown fire operations. They're running the incident on CDF Command 2 - 151.265, sounds like the incident base is at the Yolo County Fairgrounds in Woodland.

 

[RolnCode3]

Also, talked to a Sac Metro firefighter, and he said he didn't think they're actively fighting either of them yet. Anyone heard different?

Huh? CDF and USFS don't sit around and wait...they would've been all over these fires since the initial call...

It wasn't cause they were lazy. It was because it was in such a remote and rugged area that access was next to impossible. They were going to wait till the fire actually began to affect people and then take defensive postures. That's just what he told me, and it probably only applied to the Rumsey fire. I tend to believe him, as he wasn't just a line firefighter, but who knows.

If the fire is in Amador County, why would the make IC in Yolo?? It's probably a 2 hour drive to the fire from there. Per the USFS site IC Post has been moved to the "Old Iron Mountain Ski area", wherever that's at.

 

[Norman]

Can't help on the Rumsey fire, but have freqs for the Power and Fred's fires. Power Fire in Amador County on Hwy 88 which is closed: 172.325, 166.875, 164.225, 166.675, 122.925, 124.775, 170.000. Fred's Fire near
Kyburz on Hwy 50 which is also closed. CP will be moved to Sunset campground in the Crystal Basin Area on Ice House Rd which will be closed. Command freq presently 171.525, to be changed shortly. Also 169.150,127.775, good info on EDSO ch pair two 159.690 (136.5) and the local Ham Rpt 146.805. Several tac channels assigned, that would be simplex. Kyburz was evacuated last night and fire is pushing 4,000 acres.
Scanner here very busy, will post more as I hear or sort them out. Norman.

 

[45-70-405]

Rumsey Fire

On the 12th the fire lookout on Berryessa Peak burned down. You probably saw it one the news. The big dipole array antennas were for CDF LNU Local East T4 and CDF 2 T4. The 2 MSR2000 are toast. They are running on little Midland portable repeaters now with small antennas. I can't hear the repeaters here now either.

I was up at the site yesterday to put up a temporary repeater for the Napa Sheriff. He lost his brand new Quantar repeater i nteh lookout.

Don't have any clue how long it will be until things are back to normal. It looks like Napa county and CDF might install a combined system in the rental site.

Here are some pictures...
http://community.webshots.com/user/1923Holt

Josh

 

[Norman]

Update on Fred's and Power fire freqs: Fred's 171.525 is still command F, 169.150 is Air Tac 2, 170.000 is air-ground, 127.775 is air tacs, 460.9125
pl 100 is Crystal Basin campground F. Power Fire 172.325 is command F, 166.675 is Air Tac 1, 164.225 is air attack, 166.6875 is air-ground, 124.775 is air tacs, 168.075 is ?? Also hearing 123.975 don't know which fire, 151.220 is Rumsey air-ground, and don't forget 168.625 USFS Air Guard and 169.125 Travel Net. All for now, Norman.

 

[selgaran]

It was because it was in such a remote and rugged area that access was next to impossible. They were going to wait till the fire actually began to affect people and then take defensive postures.

Then they would have waited for the Rumsey fire to burn to Vacaville. If you can't make immediate access to the fire to "put the wet stuff on the red stuff", which is the case in many, if not most all wildland fires, you figure out where you can start to build fire line around the fire, and get to it. You also start making sure that the fire is actually out in places already burned so you don't get surprised if the wind changes...they never "wait" for a fire to do something.

If the fire is in Amador County, why would the make IC in Yolo?? It's probably a 2 hour drive to the fire from there.

Sorry, didn't make clear I was talking only about the Rumsey.

 

[RolnCode3]

Then they would have waited for the Rumsey fire to burn to Vacaville. If you can't make immediate access to the fire to "put the wet stuff on the red stuff", which is the case in many, if not most all wildland fires, you figure out where you can start to build fire line around the fire, and get to it. You also start making sure that the fire is actually out in places already burned so you don't get surprised if the wind changes...they never "wait" for a fire to do something.

Sorry, dude. I don't do hoses for a living. Don't know. The guy I talked to said Sac Metro Fire hadn't been mobilized at all, and he hadn't heard of them calling any extra resources in. By "waiting", I didn't exactly mean sitting around waiting for Vacaville to start burning/doing nothing. I'm not trying to start a flame war against the hosers :wink: , was just wondering what was going on.

 

[ECPD279]

Rumsey Air Attack has been on 167.950 (BLM Air to Ground) for the last couple of days. Not sure why, but they've been using this one quite a bit lately. It was also in use for the Geysers fire last month.

Also lots of traffic on 151.265 (CDF Command 2)

And as someone mentioned, LNU East is using a "temp-a-peater" on Berryessa peak.....I heard the telltale beep at the end of transmissions today.

You can check the status of fires, and the resources committed here:

http://www.fire.ca.gov/cdf/incidents/index.html

 

[selgaran]

I'm not trying to start a flame war against the hosers :wink: , was just wondering what was going on.

Nah, didn't think you were, if anything, I figured your info source probably said something that made perfect sense to him, but could easily be mis-taken by someone else...and of course, the joy of these kind of forums is that it is far to easy to come across not the way you intend...

Anyway, my understanding is that they've had a few non-CDF strike teams out for structure protection. But since until the last few days, they haven't had any big incidents at all, so CDF has has plenty of their own resources to call on. Now that they've had a couple other fires bust loose, they've started to pull in a some additional local strike teams.

Given the interesting radio situation up there, I've also been hearing Rumsey comms on LNU East - 151-340 - when the units can't hit one of the temporary repeaters. Also sounds like they've set up a second base camp at the Konocti Conservation Camp for the units working the west side of the fire.

 

[selgaran]

Re: Rumsey Fire

Here are some pictures...
http://community.webshots.com/user/1923Holt

Thanks for sharing...hope they rebuild it. There's one older gentleman who seemed to always staff the place. Real pleasure to listen to him.

 

[selgaran]

Rumsey Air Attack has been on 167.950 (BLM Air to Ground) for the last couple of days. Not sure why, but they've been using this one quite a bit lately. It was also in use for the Geysers fire last month.

Ah, I was wondering... I know that when they have fires across the valley in the Sierra, LNU has had interference problems on some of the air attack frequencies. Also, a lot of the land up in that area is actually BLM territory.

 

[45-70-405]

Which lookout do you know

Selgran,

Which fellow do you speak of, Wurb (end of week) or Bob (beginning of week)

Wurb is a good friend of mine. Do you talk to him on ham radio?

Josh

 

[selgaran]

Re: Which lookout do you know

Not sure of his name, just know that as long as I've listend to LNU, always seemed like he was up there keeping an eye on things. Maybe Wurb, because I did accidentally run across him talking to somebody on 144.430 simplex one night - tried to catch his call, but obviously missed a letter since I couldn't find anything that seemed right in the database. Didn't break in to the conversation., tho, since it sounded like he was catching up w/ someone he hadn't talked to in a while.

 

[OpSec]

Where are the freq's for BLM, etc listed on the RR DB?

 

[radioactive69]

Not sure if they are in the RR base. But here are some used in the state:

166.4875 Fire Net RPT
166.375 Admin Net RPT
167.950 air to air
169.750 Interior Dept Air tactics
169.400 Incident Command RPT
171.725 Incident Command RPT
168.25 Tac
168.400 Tac
168.475 Tac
171.175 Coordination with BIA
168.300 Tac "Scene"
168.55 Air to Ground
166.725 Tac -USFS Cache
166.775 Tac - USFS Cache
163.4875 Tac -USFS Cache

RPT= Repeater output freq. Want RPT inputs?, post a request here. Enjoy!
Doug.