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We were told if we bought 60 APX 7000 radios Motorola would give us a complete site with 7 transmitters free of charge also. That salesperson was fired when Motorola found out and we were told that salesperson was not authorized to make that type of deal.
 

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The APX Next for us is next generation technology. Nothing short of remarkable.

To have a Statewide System and a solid County System both with SmartConnect, LTE and WiFi for coverage and TRS failover that performs is a joy. Cradlepoint teather no problem. This is service to the nines.

Add the ability to tailor audio via expert, radiowide advanced, by channel using profiles and an intelligent RSM yields real nice audio.

The bells and whistles, how about being able to clearly see municipal boundaries within feet of a units location. Here you go look it’s yours, you got the paper, see ya!

Presently unwrapping 2026.1, great stuff. Thanks Moto.
 

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I am dubious about "End Of Life" vs. "we have the newer revision and will no longer sell the AN version". I am sure the NEXT AN version is still supported, in contrast to the EOL APX7000 and APX7500 where Motorola will no longer support or repair them.
 

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Still running 2022.1 here, and we do NOT want APX Next.....too large a screen to break and we do not use half the features (some firefighters tested them, and it did not go well, end user issues for sure though. But it would be nice to have city and county, then state in some cases all integrated as buddroussa mentioned above.

Getting APX6000/6500's in AN/BN and and now CN variants, along with APX7000's and APX8000XE's. Some of my APX8000's are old enough to take hunter safety classes now.....I hope they keep making them a few more years until I retire out of here.
 

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The source is my Motorola sales person as well as our project manager. Motorola already delivered over a hundred APX Next radios to me earlier this year but I had not issued them as we are not yet up on the county core. We don't care about the satellite functionality but were told about EOL coming in 2027. A deal breaker for us so the local Motorola staff went up the food chain to Chicago and got permission to replace all my Next radios. I am awaiting the RMA as we speak. I was told that the new version has already started to ship to other customers. We are hoping our replacement radios will ship in 2 weeks.

I personally don't understand why they would EOL the original version as the radios are the same except for the second SIM slot.

I am just repeating what I was told by Motorola staff and they are following up by replacing all the radios, so seems legitimate to me. They have 10,000 version 1s in the warehouse that someone will get a good deal on.....
That's interesting, because my folks say nothing about it being EOL next year, and typical life cycle is 5 years of support/firmware updates/flat rate AFTER the product cancellation is officially announced via MTN which, has yet to happen.
 

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Every day at work, carry my work Moto and my Icom air band portable.
And yes, it's a pain in the ass.
 

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Still running 2022.1 here, and we do NOT want APX Next.....too large a screen to break and we do not use half the features (some firefighters tested them, and it did not go well, end user issues for sure though. But it would be nice to have city and county, then state in some cases all integrated as buddroussa mentioned above.

Getting APX6000/6500's in AN/BN and and now CN variants, along with APX7000's and APX8000XE's. Some of my APX8000's are old enough to take hunter safety classes now.....I hope they keep making them a few more years until I retire out of here.
Didn’t know there was CN versions of the 6000. I know the 6500’s have CN variants
 

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There is no 6000 CN, only Mobiles right now.
The APX N series is the technical follow up for AN/BN variants, some are EOL and some are not
APX 8000 > APX NEXT and NEXT Freon refresh, Neither EOL
APX6000BN > APX N70, Neither EOL
APX4000AN > APX N50, 4000s are EOL
APX/900 > APX N30, Neither EOL

Whereas there is no N series Mobiles (yet ;)) the newer revs of mobiles like 4500s and 6500s are coming in CN revision with things like broadband 800 protection and 5GHz wifi function.
 

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The source is my Motorola sales person as well as our project manager. Motorola already delivered over a hundred APX Next radios to me earlier this year but I had not issued them as we are not yet up on the county core. We don't care about the satellite functionality but were told about EOL coming in 2027. A deal breaker for us so the local Motorola staff went up the food chain to Chicago and got permission to replace all my Next radios. I am awaiting the RMA as we speak. I was told that the new version has already started to ship to other customers. We are hoping our replacement radios will ship in 2 weeks.

I personally don't understand why they would EOL the original version as the radios are the same except for the second SIM slot.

I am just repeating what I was told by Motorola staff and they are following up by replacing all the radios, so seems legitimate to me. They have 10,000 version 1s in the warehouse that someone will get a good deal on.....
Motorola apparently cancelled their plans for cancellation (for now) after their internal discussions made its way to some customers, and predictably there was universal push back.

Technology wise, the AN NEXT was announced with last generation 4G LTE connectivity in 2019, right as cellular carriers were starting to adopt 5G. Motorola released an outdated cellular device from the get-go. The BN NEXT has 5G (and all the other new stuff that comes with a new network chip), so that is the major difference.

What is crazy is that the AN N70 is in the same boat, and it was announced in 2022 even though 5G was a lot more mature. I would not be surprised if they are having discussions right now for cancellation of the AN N70 even though departments are only beginning to roll them out en masse.

Motorola seems to think that radios should be on the same replacement lifecycle as cell phones.
 
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