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scrotumola

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I recently took to railroad monitoring and heard a transmission that I thought was rather odd.

About 10 minutes ago, I heard an automated message that dialed 911 in DTMF and then stated 'mandown' this message repeated about 15 times over a 1 minute period. The channel that this came across is rather active, but I've heard no response or acknowledgement since the message sounded.

Can someone enlighten this novice rr monitor?

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Interesting. Would you please provide the frequency, railroad and where you are located?
 

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That was an RCL Box


Remote control locomotive control boxes mounted on a guys chest do that if the operator falls down.


They are to test this feature before starting their shift, but you may not have heard them say they were doing the test.
 

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burner50 said:
That was an RCL Box


Remote control locomotive control boxes mounted on a guys chest do that if the operator falls down.


They are to test this feature before starting their shift, but you may not have heard them say they were doing the test.

Thanks for the info!!
 

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Is there a built in GPS in the RCL? If it DTMF's 911, does the yard operator make the call after hearing the message? Just wondering how anyone would know where a mandown was located?
 

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nothing fancy like that AFAIK... I've never used the box so i'm not sure how it works or doesnt....
 

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No GPS, normaly the dispatcher or yardmaster will know who and where that box and crew are, most RCL's work in zones and if a man down message is heard they send help to the area where they should be. If the RCL is between yards on a transfer or somthing then the dispatcher whould know where they were by the block on the ctc. one more thing the box will transmit what loco number it is linked to, that is how they know who.
 

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well with several people on a crew, any one of them could be anywhere with axles running over them, and people only know "sorta" where they are supposed to be...


More reasons to avoid RCL At all costs...
 

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That is very true, only hope is if the other guy on the crew knows where your at. I got pulled off the road to get rcl trained, did my 5 weeks and was back on the road, i hate every thing about rcl.

burner50 i love your sig line, i hate it when that happens. in 2005 i went a entire month where i couldnt go by a tdd with out setting out a coal car or two.
 

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I wonder if CSX has the same thing. on the csx yard channel(161.16) in Cumberland MD I hear , CSX (then the engine number) operator A is down, operator A is down, operator A is down.

Is that the same?
 

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ya its the same, there is 2 brands of RCL control systems, the 2 sound a little diffrent but all do the same thing.
 

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wbigcount said:
That is very true, only hope is if the other guy on the crew knows where your at. I got pulled off the road to get rcl trained, did my 5 weeks and was back on the road, i hate every thing about rcl.

burner50 i love your sig line, i hate it when that happens. in 2005 i went a entire month where i couldnt go by a tdd with out setting out a coal car or two.


I got this exact message one night about 3am on a HUGE coal train....

note the axles and temp = (


Crappy thing is that the autorack going by on track one throwing off sparks is the one that triggered the detector, and he got a highball....
 

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ya i see that, thats when it happens to me its either 100 or -20 outside, or a foot of snow lol.
 
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