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I do wonder why the helicopter had no 800 MHz capabilities, even if just the analog NIFOG stuff.
I believe that the helo had 700/800 capabilities, just not the system/talkgroup that the fire/EMS team on the ground normally used. I do not know if the helo had NIFOG channels in their radio(s).
 

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I believe that the helo had 700/800 capabilities, just not the system/talkgroup that the fire/EMS team on the ground normally used. I do not know if the helo had NIFOG channels in their radio(s).

That's a shame if it's true.
I can't understand why any public safety radios don't have the appropriate NIFOG channels in them. Channel capacity isn't an issue in most cases. Harris will pre-load a NIFOG personality into all new radios for the hefty sum of 1¢.

Dispatcher should have known about patching, so should IC. We've got several interop channels on our console just for this sort of scenario.

Air ambulance should have considered this if they are under contract with the agency.

Again, several people failed to do their job. And now the solution seems to be that someone who doesn't know any better is going to rely on a ham radio as the solution.

They're just serving up fail by the bucketload down there.
 

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That's a shame if it's true.
I can't understand why any public safety radios don't have the appropriate NIFOG channels in them. Channel capacity isn't an issue in most cases. Harris will pre-load a NIFOG personality into all new radios for the hefty sum of 1¢.

That is why I put all the VHF NIFOG channels in our radios, when we had to upgrade, for narrowbanding. We are in Michigan, and I even put in the channels that are only allowed west of the Mississippi River.
 

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Texas Statewide Interoperability Channel Plan (TSICP)

All Texas public safety agencies operating in Texas...please take a look at pages 29, 38, 47, and 50. UHF is talked about on page 34 but UHF is not commonly used anymore in Texas except for some ambulance services which is why there isn't a clause like there is on VHF, 700 and 800 MHz recommending what should be programmed.

Of course the system owner will often dictate what needs to be programmed into the users radios and some systems are in their own little fiefdoms and don't have a very wide view on interoperability other than "we have Talk Groups assigned for that".
 

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That's a shame if it's true.
I can't understand why any public safety radios don't have the appropriate NIFOG channels in them. Channel capacity isn't an issue in most cases. Harris will pre-load a NIFOG personality into all new radios for the hefty sum of 1¢.

Dispatcher should have known about patching, so should IC. We've got several interop channels on our console just for this sort of scenario.

Air ambulance should have considered this if they are under contract with the agency.

Again, several people failed to do their job. And now the solution seems to be that someone who doesn't know any better is going to rely on a ham radio as the solution.

They're just serving up fail by the bucketload down there.
Ultimately it appears it's a training and radio programming. Throw in a bit of incompetence to sum it up
 

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To sum it all up in the end it was a total cluster f@@@ due to so many people not doing their jobs and serious lack of programming,serious lack of training on how to find and use the correct talk group. I think it should be required that ALL public safety radios have the FULL NIFOG talk groups programmed and how to find them on the radio. The only thing that saved the day was one person having a non cert part 90 with them.
 
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