BCD325P2/BCD996P2: BCD325p2 LTR issue?

[7Y00PER]

I've programmed my BCD325P2 using Proscan. I entered a LTR system (Range Telecommunications Trunking System, Marquette, Michigan) and set a quick key for each site (70-75). My issue is, that I can have 70 off, and any other combination of sites on, and it will only scan the sites i have on, but if all the others are off, and only 70 is on, it will scan all the sites regardless. Any ideas why it scans all the sites when quick key 70 is, but if 70 is off it only scans the sites that are on?

 

[cg]

almost certainly, your programming has an error in it.
In the database tab, do you see something like this where multiple sites each have a different (S)ite number :


Or do you see this where each site has the same number:


If you see the second, the sites all share the same Site Quick Key

You can post your file and someone will likely view it and see if there are any less obvious errors.

 

[7Y00PER]

almost certainly, your programming has an error in it.
In the database tab, do you see something like this where multiple sites each have a different (S)ite number :
View attachment 198795

Or do you see this where each site has the same number:
View attachment 198796

If you see the second, the sites all share the same Site Quick Key

You can post your file and someone will likely view it and see if there are any less obvious errors.

This is how i have it set up. As i mentioned, if 70 is on, it scans 71-75 even if they are off, but if 70 is off, only the ones i have on between 71 & 75 will scan. I'll download my file later today if need be.

 

[nessnet]

Remember the quick key hierarchy.
Favorites --> Systems --> sites AND departments.
Key above is that sites and departments SHARE those last (..X) quick keys.
Do you have a department sharing 70 - 75?

 

[7Y00PER]

Remember the quick key hierarchy.
Favorites --> Systems --> sites AND departments.
Key above is that sites and departments SHARE those last (..X) quick keys.
Do you have a department sharing 70 - 75?

I'm not sure, though sites 71-75 I can't pick up at all from where I am at, only 70. I do travel to the areas that the other sites are located at, which is why i have them programmed

 

[hiegtx]

Remember the quick key hierarchy.
Favorites --> Systems --> sites AND departments.
Key above is that sites and departments SHARE those last (..X) quick keys.
Do you have a department sharing 70 - 75?

Slight clarification:

The OP is reporting a 325P2, which does not have Favorites lists.

For non-database DMA scanners, such as the BCD325P2, the System quick key is used for conventional systems. For trunked systems, quick keys can only be set per site. ProScan does not let you set a separate QK for a trunked system; the only QK setting available for use for a system itself is at the site, not system, level. You cannot set a separate, 'system level', quick key (on trunked systems) via the scanner's menu either. (FreeSCAN will let you set a 'system key' on a trunked system, but it then defaults all of the related sites (for that system) to the same quick key.) In lieu of Departments, the 325P2 uses Groups.

The database (('Home Patrol' series) scanners do allow quick keys to be set for systems (both trunked & conventional), sites (on trunked systems), and Departments (both trunked & conventional.

I'm not sure, though sites 71-75 I can't pick up at all from where I am at, only 70. I do travel to the areas that the other sites are located at, which is why i have them programmed

When you get a chance, would you upload your programming file, so that we can take a look? ProScan files for your model use the *.txt (text file) format, so you would not need to compress (zip) the file before posting.

 

[tvengr]

Here is a PDF file which will answer all of your questions about using quick keys. Print it out and save it for your reference.

 

[7Y00PER]

Slight clarification:

The OP is reporting a 325P2, which does not have Favorites lists.

For non-database DMA scanners, such as the BCD325P2, the System quick key is used for conventional systems. For trunked systems, quick keys can only be set per site. ProScan does not let you set a separate QK for a trunked system; the only QK setting available for use for a system itself is at the site, not system, level. You cannot set a separate, 'system level', quick key (on trunked systems) via the scanner's menu either. (FreeSCAN will let you set a 'system key' on a trunked system, but it then defaults all of the related sites (for that system) to the same quick key.) In lieu of Departments, the 325P2 uses Groups.

The database (('Home Patrol' series) scanners do allow quick keys to be set for systems (both trunked & conventional), sites (on trunked systems), and Departments (both trunked & conventional.


When you get a chance, would you upload your programming file, so that we can take a look? ProScan files for your model use the *.txt (text file) format, so you would not need to compress (zip) the file before posting.

Here it is. Its kind of a mess since I haven't had the scanner that long, and still trying to figure out how i want it organized and what i want to listen to.

 

[hiegtx]

Here it is. Its kind of a mess since I haven't had the scanner that long, and still trying to figure out how i want it organized and what i want to listen to.

I'm not in your area, of course, and not familiar with the systems you are programming.

However, looking at your file, I don't see anything that would cause or explain the issue you are having.

When the file is loaded, & the 325P2 is scanning, are you seeing the quick key indicators on the display?

That first item. in this case "S0", indicates that the system quick keys showing are single digit (1 though 0 (zero)
The asterix in the #3 & #9 slots indicate that while a key is assigned, it is currently off. The dash ("-") in the 'zero' slot indicates nothing is assigned for that key.





This screenshot shows "S7", so the system quick keys are 71, 73, 74, 75, and 70. The dashes indicate no QK assigned. (Sys QK 72 was being scanned when I grabbed this screenshot. The key being scanned blinks on & off. It so happened it was 'blinked off' at the instant I grabbed the screenshot.

When you load a programming file from ProScan to your scanner, the default (in ProScan) is to first delete the existing program in the scanner.



If, perhaps by accident, you had unchecked that box, you could possibly have two copies of the same system on the scanner. so that when you turn off, say, 71, it actually turns it on in the duplicate system.

With your scanner monitoring the system, focus on whether the #s. like 70, or 71, actually flip from showing the second digit of the QK #, meaning it is turned on, to an asterix, indicating that while that system number is loaded, it's QK is set as "off". Remember that a "-" (dash) indicates that that particular key number has not been assigned.

Maybe someone else will have a different take or suggestion for you to try, Right now, I'm scratching my head right along with you.

 

[Y00PER]

I'm not in your area, of course, and not familiar with the systems you are programming.

However, looking at your file, I don't see anything that would cause or explain the issue you are having.

When the file is loaded, & the 325P2 is scanning, are you seeing the quick key indicators on the display?
View attachment 198873
That first item. in this case "S0", indicates that the system quick keys showing are single digit (1 though 0 (zero)
The asterix in the #3 & #9 slots indicate that while a key is assigned, it is currently off. The dash ("-") in the 'zero' slot indicates nothing is assigned for that key.

View attachment 198876

View attachment 198874

This screenshot shows "S7", so the system quick keys are 71, 73, 74, 75, and 70. The dashes indicate no QK assigned. (Sys QK 72 was being scanned when I grabbed this screenshot. The key being scanned blinks on & off. It so happened it was 'blinked off' at the instant I grabbed the screenshot.

When you load a programming file from ProScan to your scanner, the default (in ProScan) is to first delete the existing program in the scanner.

View attachment 198877

If, perhaps by accident, you had unchecked that box, you could possibly have two copies of the same system on the scanner. so that when you turn off, say, 71, it actually turns it on in the duplicate system.

With your scanner monitoring the system, focus on whether the #s. like 70, or 71, actually flip from showing the second digit of the QK #, meaning it is turned on, to an asterix, indicating that while that system number is loaded, it's QK is set as "off". Remember that a "-" (dash) indicates that that particular key number has not been assigned.

Maybe someone else will have a different take or suggestion for you to try, Right now, I'm scratching my head right along with you.

I'll try the "delete all systems" thing and try again. Usually I do that, but i was adding to a different system and had done the "add only" option, just to save time, but maybe i didn't have this system unchecked when I did it. Thanks for the suggestion

 

[7Y00PER]

I'm not in your area, of course, and not familiar with the systems you are programming.

However, looking at your file, I don't see anything that would cause or explain the issue you are having.

When the file is loaded, & the 325P2 is scanning, are you seeing the quick key indicators on the display?
View attachment 198873
That first item. in this case "S0", indicates that the system quick keys showing are single digit (1 though 0 (zero)
The asterix in the #3 & #9 slots indicate that while a key is assigned, it is currently off. The dash ("-") in the 'zero' slot indicates nothing is assigned for that key.

View attachment 198876

View attachment 198874

This screenshot shows "S7", so the system quick keys are 71, 73, 74, 75, and 70. The dashes indicate no QK assigned. (Sys QK 72 was being scanned when I grabbed this screenshot. The key being scanned blinks on & off. It so happened it was 'blinked off' at the instant I grabbed the screenshot.

When you load a programming file from ProScan to your scanner, the default (in ProScan) is to first delete the existing program in the scanner.

View attachment 198877

If, perhaps by accident, you had unchecked that box, you could possibly have two copies of the same system on the scanner. so that when you turn off, say, 71, it actually turns it on in the duplicate system.

With your scanner monitoring the system, focus on whether the #s. like 70, or 71, actually flip from showing the second digit of the QK #, meaning it is turned on, to an asterix, indicating that while that system number is loaded, it's QK is set as "off". Remember that a "-" (dash) indicates that that particular key number has not been assigned.

Maybe someone else will have a different take or suggestion for you to try, Right now, I'm scratching my head right along with you.

After I tried your suggestion, it seems to work as it should now. I'm guessing I forgot to deselect it at some point when i was adding to a different system.. Thanks!!

 

[hiegtx]

After I tried your suggestion, it seems to work as it should now. I'm guessing I forgot to deselect it at some point when i was adding to a different system.. Thanks!!

Glad it’s working now. Enjoy the scanner. I have one myself.