BNN New Service?

[scannersnstuff]

But the purpose of a pager is to eliminate the need to keeping your ear on a radio all the time (unless you have no life at all outside of the "first responder" business).

keep in mind, depending on how dependent you are on needing to know what's going on <first responders,new's media, fire insurance etc>, you need to keep monitoring your radio's.
a lot of thing's factor in to how much and the quality of what's getting paged. you don't want to have to wade thru a ton of bullcrap to screen the page's that you need to know about.
had several different pager's. got fed up with all the nonsense. somebody i knew said "i'd like to have my wife bake my pager with the meatloaf tonight". yup,knew the feeling.

 

[de784]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.508 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

How good is the coverage out of ny nj area

 

[fdnybuff18]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.508 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

How good is the coverage out of ny nj area

It doesn't get any better then BNN for NJ/NY coverage.... Like I said before, I thought 1RWN was out of business.

 

[mike4164]

Like I said,when all the childish BS pages that are inaccurate are stopped and the real deal gets paged then it MIGHT be worth it.But not until then.They ALL need to stop with the childish and inaccurate pages,not just 1st responder,BNN as well as any other paging service.When they page from a central location and customers dont page jobs maybe the information will be accurate and maybe it might be worth having a pager again.

 

[scannersnstuff]

Like I said,when all the childish BS pages that are inaccurate are stopped and the real deal gets paged then it MIGHT be worth it.But not until then.They ALL need to stop with the childish and inaccurate pages,not just 1st responder,BNN as well as any other paging service.When they page from a central location and customers dont page jobs maybe the information will be accurate and maybe it might be worth having a pager again.

in the same word's..... nuff' fluff !.

 

[ten13]

Further investigation has concluded that, for my purposes, I may stay with 1st Responder.

I discussed the new software situation with someone on the inside of BNN, and it appears that, yes, they can limit what you get, down to the county level, but that's about it (1st Responder can go down to individual towns). If you select "fires" in one particular county, you get EVERYTHING that the FDs in that county go on, such as "entrapment" runs, etc. Whereas 1st Responder can pin it down to specific towns and even further down to specific types of incidents (like "aviation incidents" in Teterboro or 2nd Alarms only in Englewood).

With that said, we have to still deal with the immature bickering between 1st Responder "dispatchers" over just who has "claimed" certain jobs, then hold them without sending them out until they get around to it, just so they can get their precious "points."

It's an important service run by amateurs.

 

[EAN840]

Hi ten13 and others
BNN Does have a system in place where you can pick down to the incident type you want to receive, you can pick you only want "2nd alarm" or only "mva / entrapment" and not "smoke condition" etc
we do not have the ability to pick based on the town, because thats not something anyone has ever asked for, do we have the technology to do it ? 200% YES!
alot has been invested in the new cutting edge system thats currently in place, you have a web portal you can login and only view the incidents you subscribed for.
plenty agency's in the area actually have the service, dont be surprised if you walk into one of the biggest "EOC/ Ops Centers" in the state and you see them running it on a Huge Screen

please contact the office to make sure this is something you want, call 1-888-875-6100

Izzy

 

[Citywide173]

First, I have heard nothing but good about BNN from those in my area that use it.

That being said, The primary reason that so much BS gets paged over many of the systems is noted above. Dispatchers want their points. I have started a system that is free, which has it's ups and downs-the big up is that it's free. Some of the downs are that the interface, while very visually appealing, isn't as selectable (county and some cities-but all incidents). Dispatchers don't get rewards beyond a membership to Firepics.net (which is worth a whopping $2 per year), so there's really no incentive to send stuff out, which I'm hoping will keep the yahoos that page everything away, and only attract those that want to send quality pages out. I'll be trying to get the various Yahoo! notification groups to collaborate with the system, so hopefully growth is in the future. Remember, it's small right now, but could be something useful if everyone that's interested pitched in: Firepics INS

 

[EAN840]

Hi Ed,
thanks for the positive feedback, we have been booming in New England like no other notification group, and if you didn't hear, we are providing the service for free, yes thats correct, absolutely free no strings attached for anyone thats subscribes to our service from the new england states. and as you know we acquired all the "top notch" reporters from all other groups, so we don't have the problem of BS being paged because you can pick what you want to receive and the right incident type is used to send the notification

Id be glad to have a private conversation with you regarding your website,

izzy

 

[ten13]

>>>>do we have the technology to do it ? 200% YES!<<<

Hmmm...that appears to be poor salesmanship, If you ask me:

"We have what you want, but we won't sell it to you...."

Where would Bill Gates be today if he had that attitude? And he initially had no competition.

Having the technology, but not putting it in place and LETTING THE MARKET DECIDE if it's worthwhile, seems to me to be a poor business plan. One would think that, since one of the competitors has, in fact, that interface, you would want to AT LEAST keep up with your competition.

If you change your mind about that "200%" and put that "technology" out for the masses, maybe I'll be back....

 

[EAN840]

Here is the problem with doing it, plenty times dept's go M/A into other citys, and if i only picked "fort lee" i wont know if "englewood" has a fire, even fort lee goes M/A since the fire is in "Englewood"
what subscribers want is the ability to pick what incident they want, and in what countys
but, if to get you as a subscriber will only happen if you can pick your towns, i will make it work for you, please call me 1-888-875-6100 Extension 2485
i think after a while your add more city's, then add the countys at least your in, probably even more then 1 countys
this is not about doing everything you can do, this is about customizing the service to our subscribers the way they want it

 

[Tech792]

BNN dispatchers are professionals that want to be there. Not because you'll win a free prize because you sent the most (BS) dispatches like on 1st RWN.

 

[ten13]

>>>>Here is the problem with doing it, plenty times dept's go M/A into other citys, and if i only picked "fort lee" i wont know if "englewood" has a fire, even fort lee goes M/A since the fire is in "Englewood"<<<<

Well, then, I guess THAT customer, or THOSE customers, will pick the entire county...or those two towns...to get pages on, right?

I don't see it as a "problem."

It appears to me that you are adapting your customers to your business plan, telling them what they want to hear....or should hear....not the other way around.

>>>>this is about customizing the service to our subscribers the way they want it<<<<

Well, I would be a subscriber who would want to limit what I get. And you can't tell me that there aren't others out there with the same needs, because I've talked to BNN subscribers who think the same way as I do. Those people use the BNN pager as a source of information rather than a true "notification" of the type of job that they are interested in. They read it periodically just to see what has happened because to leave it on "beeping" all day would drive them batty.

When I get a page from 1rwn, it's something I want to hear about with little or no BS to filter out.

As far as "customization" goes...well, anything that has to be "customized" always cost more.

As I say, I'm not a big fan of the way 1rwn does business with their "volunteer," points-seeking "dispatchers," but if I can limited what I get to just what I need, I'll stick with it....for now.

As I say, maybe I'll be back to see what BNN has to offer later....

 

[EAN840]

and thats why we dont have it setup to pick it down to the city level, because "no one" has asked to have only 1 city/town
how many times does "newark" operate at fires which is actually right at the border line of whats actually "irvington"
but like i said we are able to do it, we have the technology, and no not to be a sales person, i never get involved with sales, im just stating the facts

 

[ten13]

Well, another 1rwn disappointment.

They missed...entirely...a 3rd Alarm in Jersey City early Saturday morning about 0300 on March 19th.

Maybe it's time for them to break down and pay someone to work the overnight shift.

"...and thats why we (BNN) dont have it setup to pick it down to the city level, because "no one" has asked to have only 1 city/town
how many times does "newark" operate at fires which is actually right at the border line of whats actually "irvington""

No, they may not only ask for Newark alone (however, they may), but they MAY ask for Newark, Irvington, and E.O. out of the whole county.

And someone in Essex Co. may want to know early about stuff in, say, Jersey City and North Hudson in Hudson County. And someone in Union County may want to know about Newark alone.

If BNN has the capabilities and technology to limit pages to specific towns in a county (as you say they do), then they should put it into effect, and let the MARKET decide if it works. Even if it isn't all that popular, I'll assume that they will still be able to select the entire county anyway.....just like 1st Responder.

 

[ten13]

Fearing public debate on their service, 1st Responder has had a thread closed down on the subject:

http://forums.radioreference.com/ne...re-1st-responder-irwn-issues-whats-nj422.html.

Too bad....I would have liked to have heard their reply, as well as from others who have complaints.

Interestingly, I don't see other threads being shut down for complaining about other products or services.

And this particular thread here has been opened since November of '10.

Must have hit a nerve with the moderator.....or was there undue influence?

 

[blantonl]

I'm not aware that e911god is a spokesperson for 1RWN, but from what I can see your post and this thread are all items that are pretty much not appropriate for RadioReference. ranting and whining about news notification networks, especially in the Northeast, seems to be a sport for which numerous love to participate in.

If you ever needed an explanation of why RR doesn't get into the news notification business, your posts and this thread sum it up quite nicely.

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