Brockville fire dispatch

[captain_crash911]

Rumors or going around that Brockville fire dispatch might be moved or merged to Brockville police.But I hear that there is a bit of a uproar over this and they might relocate it to the upper floor of Maple View Lodge in the village of Athen.Apparently the place is all ready wired and ready to go. All of this and they still haven't made up thier minds on the new county dispatch system yet.

 

[smittyj77]

Are you on glue, Fire Dispatch move to BPS - I doubt it

And move to Athens to a old age home? Really ? Is it April 1st already>

 

[tayridge]

Brockville Fire

Good Morning: Up here in Perth we have heard rumors of a move for some-time. Like to still listen to Brockville Leeds Fire used too live closer. Still comes in great in Perth. The radio world is a changing all over. Dave

 

[captain_crash911]

new system starting to take shape

I was just on the spectrum direct site and noticed a couple of new repeater pairs for each tower in the Leeds and grenville fire system. 3 repeater pairs per site? possible trunking?
152.000 158.000
153.000 159.000
154.430 158.565

 

[LordJ]

I'll add them to see when we start getting hits on them...

 

[Jammin_Jay]

It does seem like repeater pairs. . Usually repeater pairs are 4.5 mhz`s apart. in VHF. But some could be different. Could it be MotoTrbo. As for brockville police, i dont think they would be part of it, unless they were a seperate TG on the system, or perhaps patched.

 

[captain_crash911]

maybe they are looking for repeater pairs ? preliminary temp frequencies? i will plug them into my scanner.I know they have been playing with the towers all last week.It looks like the spectra-tac receivers are off line because dispatch is bouncing off all the towers. and the new consol sound alot like the new lanark system,I can here small echos in the back ground(simulcast)

 

[DaveH]

TAFL shows new pairs as pending status; frequencies look like place-holders,
most of them being not on the grid. Emission type and bandwidth looks like P25
(a guess). Could be conventional or trunked.

As for repeater pairs being 4.5Mhz apart: not. One common one is 4.02MHz,
old RTP separation was 5.26MHz in the 152/157-158MHz band, other than that
there's no real standard.

Dave

 

[troubleshooter1]

Well, the "new standard" for 151.8800 - 160.1700 MHz. is 5.575 MHz. See Spectrum Management and Telecommunications - SRSP-500 - Technical Requirements for Land Mobile and Fixed Radio Services Operating in the Bands 138-144*MHz and 148-174*MHz All the other bands are covered as well, see Spectrum Management and Telecommunications - Standard Radio System Plans (scroll down to the bottom of the page for the band plans.) I like these because they define all "valid" frequencies for each band, and define which frequency ranges are duplex pairs, and which are simplex frequencies. Of course legacy allocations (old systems) are generally grandfathered. 150.100 MHz. is a good example. It's "off the grid" but so widely deployed it's grandfathered.

 

[DaveH]

Well, the "new standard" for 151.8800 - 160.1700 MHz. is 5.575 MHz. See Spectrum Management and Telecommunications - SRSP-500 - Technical Requirements for Land Mobile and Fixed Radio Services Operating in the Bands 138-144*MHz and 148-174*MHz All the other bands are covered as well, see Spectrum Management and Telecommunications - Standard Radio System Plans (scroll down to the bottom of the page for the band plans.) I like these because they define all "valid" frequencies for each band, and define which frequency ranges are duplex pairs, and which are simplex frequencies. Of course legacy allocations (old systems) are generally grandfathered. 150.100 MHz. is a good example. It's "off the grid" but so widely deployed it's grandfathered.

Intersting articles...thanks for pointing to them. So it looks like there are some emerging standards
for re-farmed VHF frequencies. Given the present jumble it will take years before any of this starts to
take hold.

Monitoring the stated frequency pairs is fine but I doubt anything related to the system will be heard,
as they appear to be place-holders. People can check TAFL periodically as the real frequencies should
eventaully show; or use the search function to see what turns up. In my experience other unexpected things
show, that may not even be listed anywhere. (Rumor is, newer scanners ship with the search function
disabled, or even not implemented, but I'm not affected as I use mostly older equipment...

Dave

 

[captain_crash911]

new frequencies listed

Licensee Name Search Results | Spectrum Direct | Industry Canada
TX RX
153.545 168.810
162.795 167.070
154.430 158.565

 

[captain_crash911]

I forgot another frequency 163.545 168.810 sorry

 

[smittyj77]

See there is frequncies listed in 414 mhz range now

 

[captain_crash911]

414 mhz

they are the link frequencies

 

[captain_crash911]

153.545

I was picking up alot of data burst along the 401 between belleville and kingston today. I am not sure who was talking but it was not fire. maybe states?