CLMRN Outage

[APX7500X2]

Advised by a Bridgeport cop that since Midnight they have had huge issues with the CLMRN, also keep hearing South West Cmed has all its channels that are used with the state are off line, I did hear a Bridgeport FD truck call Southwest a few times and someone answered them and told them south west was off line because of issues with the CLMRN fiber in the area
Im amazed that the system is so fragile it can be off line for some dispatch centers for 16+Hours

I was in Darien a few weeks ago and the PD LT i was talking to said they were discussing going to CLMRN, at the time a great idea as they only have to buy subscribers, but they might want to wait a while until the system is more reliable

 

[Firebuff66]

It is true there are huge issues going on right now, but the State relies on mutable vendors to work on/repair/install the infrastructure of the system and in my experience its more than likely its a vendor issue (IMHO)

 

[Kitn1mcc]

Med 9 and Med 10 still work great tho humm. . The depts around here have everything simulcasted and linked to LB and UHF

 

[PD47JD]

Departments maintaining their own proprietary communications system is the way to go. There is no lack of inter agency frequencies/channels available in Connecticut to utilize in the event the need arises. Don't hitch your horse to a single statewide system. Things (I won't use the vernacular) happen and when so, you're....________! But, with the advent of sophisticated salesmanship, more and more Chiefs and Board of Police Commissioners fail to see the risk. Unfortunately, there is a perception "Gee, if they're doing it, I guess so should we". Case at point: Use of "E" for routine comms.

 

[Firebuff66]

There are pluses and minuses to everything, I work at a center with 84 channels on the console and 52 of them are state resources and as of late we have had many failures, but we are using an off brand console and connect to the state core by ISSI, other dispatch centers with Motorola consoles connected directly to the core have much less failures and if they do its one or 2 channels and its back very quick (Most Times).

Darien has Motorola consoles and them going to the state system would be a home run, they already have the coverage so it would be subscribers mostly as the cost.
But every towns PD that touches the coast from West Haven to Greenwich is Encrypted except for Darien, so I can see that writing on the wall

So in the end our 52 channels being down for 21 hours the other day is not apples to apples for system performance

 

[PD47JD]

Well, it is patently apparent that "KISS" (Keep It Simple Stupid") is a thing of the past when it comes to designing and implementing communication systems.

 

[digitalBill]

There are pluses and minuses to everything, I work at a center with 84 channels on the console and 52 of them are state resources and as of late we have had many failures, but we are using an off brand console and connect to the state core by ISSI, other dispatch centers with Motorola consoles connected directly to the core have much less failures and if they do its one or 2 channels and its back very quick (Most Times).

Darien has Motorola consoles and them going to the state system would be a home run, they already have the coverage so it would be subscribers mostly as the cost.
But every towns PD that touches the coast from West Haven to Greenwich is Encrypted except for Darien, so I can see that writing on the wall

So in the end our 52 channels being down for 21 hours the other day is not apples to apples for system performance

Darien has been E for a while now

 

[W1JOP]

Departments maintaining their own proprietary communications system is the way to go. There is no lack of inter agency frequencies/channels available in Connecticut to utilize in the event the need arises. Don't hitch your horse to a single statewide system. Things (I won't use the vernacular) happen and when so, you're....________! But, with the advent of sophisticated salesmanship, more and more Chiefs and Board of Police Commissioners fail to see the risk. Unfortunately, there is a perception "Gee, if they're doing it, I guess so should we". Case at point: Use of "E" for routine comms.

In south eastern CT most town PD's for the most part maintain their own systems as well as the fire departments there were not on low band(33mhz), North of Norwich CT the CSP provides police services in all towns, and in Windom County QV fire Dispatch is still primarily on low band with UHF crossband systems


CSP is a priority user of the CLMR but I dont think other then the GPS Cad system I don't think the have any backup RF systems

 

[Firebuff66]

Darien has been E for a while now

Well than no change at all for them

 

[sefrischling]

In south eastern CT most town PD's for the most part maintain their own systems as well as the fire departments there were not on low band(33mhz), North of Norwich CT the CSP provides police services in all towns, and in Windom County QV fire Dispatch is still primarily on low band with UHF crossband systems

Police Departments on CLMRN include Norwich, Ledyard, Groton Town, Groton City, Stonington, Montville. Resident Trooper departments, such as Old Lyme and Colchester, operate on CLMRN as well.

The only independent police departments not on CLMRN are East Lyme, Waterford and New London, with all three eyeing CLMRN, and two of them operating on the same trunked system. Tribal Police are a whole other issue, that operate on sovereign land.

I am not including SubBase and Amtrak police, they are operate in SECT, but are not SECT agencies.

 

[sefrischling]

North of Norwich CT the CSP provides police services in all towns, and in Windom County QV fire Dispatch is still primarily on low band with UHF crossband systems

There are a few independent police departments in Windham County, including Willimantic, Plainfield and Putnam. Killingly Police are a Resident Trooper department, but they are still their own department. Putnam Police are on VHF, whereas Plainfield and Willimanmtic are both now on CLMRN. Willi PD and Plainfield PD operate on their own assigned talk groups.

While QV is on 33mhz, the majority of QV traffic is on UHF at this point, with a shift to CLMRN. Look at Colchester Fire, which is dispatched by QV, they eliminated low band, now using UHF and CLMRN with TG 12801.

 

[Radio646]

From my location I can't receive the Bridgeport site but my trunk recorder captured plenty of G site voice activity on BP fire Dispatch (11526) from Midnight onward. It seemed like the normal amount of traffic carried by the G site caused by affiliations but, again, I can't receive the BP site so if there was total chaos there, I can't offer evidence to confirm or debunk localized impact. I did hear a BP FD transmission referencing the MDTs were all down shortly after midnight but no other chatter about "radios not working", on the G site.

So are there more details on the Saturday outage? PSAPs unable to dispatch calls? Bridgeport site become isolated? Single tower issolation? Were first responders unable to communicate due to subscriber units being unable to affiliate?

 

[wmzuzuski]

Sound like no one exercised their "Day-X" plans . . . . Or even had any . . . .

 

[Kitn1mcc]

We also have a DMR system here in Old Lyme the PD chat on it regularly

 

[Moodus-CT]

We also have a DMR system here in Old Lyme the PD chat on it regularly

What system might that be?

 

[Kitn1mcc]

What system might that be?

the one the town owns

 

[W1KNE]

the one the town owns

Maybe, perhaps, you could submit this system to be put into the DB? Clearly it's not there and no one has submitted anything on it yet.

 

[cg]

WQPA269 might be it

 

[W1JOP]

Anyone know anything about the old Lyme site? I get a reasonably strong signal from the listed SDS200 will not receive data from it and my unication pager willl not lock onto that site, I am in niantic and the pager locks primarily on 27 and some of the time 26, old Lyme is significantly closer to me then both those sites, it’s just not transmitting data so I dont know if anyone new what was up with that

 

[nhfdcadet]

Anyone know anything about the old Lyme site? I get a reasonably strong signal from the listed SDS200 will not receive data from it and my unication pager willl not lock onto that site, I am in niantic and the pager locks primarily on 27 and some of the time 26, old Lyme is significantly closer to me then both those sites, it’s just not transmitting data so I dont know if anyone new what was up with that

silly question but do you have the control channel and the site number programmed into the pager?