Cloning the PRO 96 to new GREs
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If they had matching features, it might be possible, but if you check the stickythread or the manual you'll see these are not similar in the slightest...
Probably true, but the bottom line will be to see the layout of the files. You may be able to do some 'rearranging' of data fields and/or tweak header info (like with the Uniden 246/396 files).
If the files are straight ASCII delimited files, a good (Notepad++ which is freeware) ASCII editor and a little knowledge of regular expressions can do absolute wonders. I forget who showed me 'regular expressions' but I thank them. They have made my life so much easier over the past ten or so years.
If the files are straight ASCII delimited files, a good (Notepad++ which is freeware) ASCII editor and a little knowledge of regular expressions can do absolute wonders. I forget who showed me 'regular expressions' but I thank them. They have made my life so much easier over the past ten or so years.
I think the best method would be a radioreference database import feature in the upcoming Starrsoft software.
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Have you ever looked at a dump of a GRE built Pro-96/2096 setup? Why do you think that the only software that works is Starrsoft's? There is going to be no reading, tweaking, or editing those dumps. I suspect that GRE will continue to use the same sort of packing on the new scanners. If you want to know how to intrepret them, contact GRE, sign a NDA, and go for it.LEH said:
Here is a sample of a bit from a Pro-96/2096 file dump:
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loumaag said:
That brings up a good point. On the draft manual, pages 88-90, they detailed a lot of the protocol for remote computer control of the radio. So I wonder if what they're doing now is leaving the remote control part of it open for the general public and the reading/writing dump of the whole scanner programming still "locked up". I can see good and bad reasons for not opening that part of the scanner, but I'm not sure yet what to think of it....
n4voxgill
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DaveIN said:
The only post I have seen from Don Star was that he did not have any info on the new GRE scanners to work with and he didn't know if he would have a program for them.
Have you seen a post where Don said he was developing software for the new GRE.
bezking
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Well, Yeah, Lou. How did you open that? 9 times out of 10 NotePad or even worse Word will yield garbage like that, but when opened with a specialized editor you may be able to get something useful.loumaag said:
bezking - that's incorrect.
The point is - asking if you can close them is like asking to clone your Pro96 to a BCT15. They are completely separate radios, completely separate menu structures, completely different system/bank protocols, etc. Just no way to do it.
The point is - asking if you can close them is like asking to clone your Pro96 to a BCT15. They are completely separate radios, completely separate menu structures, completely different system/bank protocols, etc. Just no way to do it.
Indeed it could opened it with a hex editor and had I done so it would not look any different except you would have two sides to the screen. (I've done that before trying to figure it out.) It doesn't change the point that GRE purposely packs or hashes (or both) the content of the memory so that people cannot reverse engineer it as they did for the 92 and 93/95 series of radios.bezking said:
Nope, Loumaag is right. I should have looked at a ".p96" file before I opened mouth and inserted both feet.
I have one of the best programming/text editors ever made and it does nothing to improve the looks of the data in the file.
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Even HEX doesn't help it any.
The above is "supposed" to be a three line copy and paste. Not even half way down the line, the paste buffer encounters something it doesn't like. The Uniden files are an ASCII comma (or double quote) delimited file. Piece of cake to work with.
I have one of the best programming/text editors ever made and it does nothing to improve the looks of the data in the file.
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Even HEX doesn't help it any.
The above is "supposed" to be a three line copy and paste. Not even half way down the line, the paste buffer encounters something it doesn't like. The Uniden files are an ASCII comma (or double quote) delimited file. Piece of cake to work with.
I think the PSR500 will have a little more open protocol...
rdale said:
There you go! Doesn't get any more "ambiguous" and "hopeful" than that! :lol:
P.S. I guess my posts/predictions get overseen and ignored until much later in the time continuum....
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n4voxgill said:
I saw the same post from Don right after the announcement was made about the new PSR series coming out. Since then, I haven't seen any update from Don. I've been treating this one as an internet latrine rumor.
I had toyed with preordering a PSR-500, but until software comes out, I think i'm going to stick with my PRO-96.
BTW, i've had good luck exporting a p96 file out as a CSV file, modifying the CSV file and then importing it into Win-95.
Warren
bezking
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UGGGGG. That's why I am not a programmer full time. (I'm, a damn good network admin, though.)
wwhitby said:
LOL, well there is a rumor that I keep my PopComm magazines in the latrine to read, but on page 26 of the Aug. issue, Rich Wells article mentioned that "GRE has also announced that StarrSoft, a supplier of scanner software, will be supporting the PSR-500".
Warren does bring up a good point. You can export WinXX files to CSV, so maybe we will be able to use our previously programmed files for the PSR-500 software, whoever ends up writing it.
I sent an email directly to GRE America asking if software will be availble when the PSR-500 is released next month. I'll let everyone know what they say.
I do hope that Don is writing a new app right now. I would hate to try to program that scanner by hand
Warren
I do hope that Don is writing a new app right now. I would hate to try to program that scanner by hand
Warren
Based on GRE's reputation of ease of use and well written owners manuals, I'm not too concerned about programming by hand, even if GRE doesn't decide to tell you if software is being written or not. The Uniden's dynamic memory scanners are not too tough to program, so I'm confident that the GRE object oriented memory management scheme will be even easer. The hardest part is having to "unlearn" the banks and channel mindset, IMHO.
The PSR-500 is obviously different from the PRO-96 enough to not be able to be "cloned" to each other as the first post was asking, so I'm hopeful that a Radioreference database import feature will be available for larger amounts (read statewide trunked systems) of data import.
The PSR-500 is obviously different from the PRO-96 enough to not be able to be "cloned" to each other as the first post was asking, so I'm hopeful that a Radioreference database import feature will be available for larger amounts (read statewide trunked systems) of data import.
KC9NEG
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I read the PSR-500 manual twice. The second time thru, it all made sense. I doubt I'll need to ever open it once I get my radio
Todd/Indy
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I had tor read the PSR-500 manual about three timestbhausen said:I read the PSR-500 manual twice. The second time thru, it all made sense. I doubt I'll need to ever open it once I get my radio
Todd/Indy
and I agree. Although I wouldn't want to, if I had to program it by hand it would be a snap. Everything is pretty straight foward.- Status
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