confused about PRO-2052 instructions

[cassidy1190]

I just got my PRO-2052 and i am trying to program the NJ state police troop C trunked system into my scanner. The scanner is at the very top floor of the house away from electric noise. I am using the antenna that came with it, and its extended fully.

Frequncies I have of the Troop C trunked system:

856.7125
857.2125
857.7125
858.2125
858.7125
859.2125
859.7125
860.2125
860.7125
867.2125
867.6625
868.1375
866.3125
866.6125
867.2250
868.5125

Here are the instructions i followed...

"1. set the scanner for conventional scanning, then hold down TRUNK until the scanner beebs twince. BANK, TRUNK, and the bank numbers flash"

-ok I did that no problem...

"2. Press a number key to select the bank for the trunked system's frequencies. To select a bank between 11 and 20, press SHIFT then the number keys. The scanner displays one of six system types."

-I selected bank 20 no problem and then the system types came up as expected...

"3. Use up or down to select the system type, then press E."

-I selected E2-800 since troop C is a motorola type II system...

"4. Use the number keys to enter the trunked system's frequncies, then press E."

-ok, I programmed all the frequncies one channel after the other (951, 952, 953 ect.)...

"5. Press either MANUAL or up to select the next cannel in the bank."

"6. Repeat steps for and 5 until all frequencies have been enterd"

-alright i enterd all the frequncies but im not hearing anything not even a little static, just nothing, Im pretty sure i have it in trunk mode and i know for sure that i followed all the instructions and that i have all the frequencies. The broadcast tower is just a little over a half hour away so i dont understand why i cant get the data channel, its probably somthin i did but i dont know. Help!

 

[loumaag]

First, welcome to the boards and the site.

Manually check each frequency (in conventional mode) to see if you can hear the Control Channel. Pay special attention to the 4 frequencies in red that appear on the frequency list here. Make sure you have the squelch set so that you are just above the hash noise on an inactive frequency (you should not hear the noise, but neither should the squelch be cranked up too much.) When you get to the Control Channel, you should hear the data stream.

If you can hear the data stream then make sure you follow the instructions starting on page 33 of the manual.

It is tough to say what 1/2 hour means, especially in a large metro type area. How many (air) miles away is this tower? Let us know if the above helped out.

 

[cassidy1190]

I cant here the data stream at all, I turned the squelch down as far as it could go without the hash noise but still nothing. Im not sure how many air miles, but i live in belmar and the station, i belive, is in holmdel.

 

[fmon]

Also, the antenna should be nearly collapsed in the 800 range as described on page 8 of the manual.

 

[cassidy1190]

I didnt see anything on p. 8 but ill try it...

 

[NewbombTurk]

Can you hear anything other than noise with the squelch open?
Another thing is with the stock antenna try it in the collapsed position.
My 2052 hears 800mhz better this way. Maybe you could get an antenna on the roof somehow.
Sounds to me like you just can't hear them. Good luck!

 

[cassidy1190]

im just hearing plain old noise nothing else Ive tried the antenna in every position imaginable but nothin is comming across. Are you sure that i have all the right frequensies, the full list of them is on the top of the page.

 

[cassidy1190]

I know im missing somthing, i dont think it has anything to do with the antenna or where im located. I htink i programmed somthing wrong...

 

[fmon]

The database in this forum for troop C list these freqs as control channels:
857.7125
858.7125
859.7125
860.7125
If you don't hear the distinct CC noise on one of these in the manual mode, then you are to far from the system or something is wrong with the scanner.

 

[loumaag]

im just hearing plain old noise nothing else Ive tried the antenna in every position imaginable but nothin is comming across. Are you sure that i have all the right frequensies, the full list of them is on the top of the page.

According to my mapping program you are about 14 miles from the tower, so that shouldn't present a problem, since you said you lived in a house, I am assuming normal construction (wood, brick, etc. no steel construction). Does the radio pick up other things? Have you determined that it indeed works? The frequencies you list, although I didn't compare every one, appear to match the list on the site here. If the list on the site is wrong, than a lot of people have been using the wrong frequencies to listen to the state police in central NJ. :lol:

You could be near something which is overloading the front-end of the receiver which will make picking up anything problematic. You don't happen to be in the shadow of a Nextel Tower by any chance?

 

[cassidy1190]

I dont think there is anything wrong with the scanner. Although there is a cablevision station pretty close to me i dont thnk that would cause a problem. I pick up my local police, fire, ems, coastguard, you name it, crystal clear. Just cant here the NJSP. Oh yeah, I dont think there are any nextel towers hear.

 

[fmon]

Lou, he has all the freqs from RR plus two more, which just won't be used if not part of the system. And you're correct, at 14 miles, the building must really be shielded if he can't pick their strong system up regardless of antenna position.

 

[fmon]

I dont think there is anything wrong with the scanner. Although there is a cablevision station pretty close to me i dont thnk that would cause a problem. I pick up my local police, fire, ems, coastguard, you name it, crystal clear. Just cant here the NJSP. Oh yeah, I dont think there are any nextel towers hear.

Program using this Word doc.

 

[cassidy1190]

I took it outside to see if i could get better reception out there but still nothing. I think I have an idea of whats going on. I recived a notice from cablevisoin that my house is a siganl leek a couple days ago. They're gonna come by and fix it next week. Could the leek be my problem?

 

[cassidy1190]

I am now prgramming the scanner using the word document, but when i press search after i enter the frequencies i dont see the " --- " just 29.060.

 

[cassidy1190]

How do i find out my size codes??

 

[cassidy1190]

I found them but there are only 7 none of them is 12

 

[cassidy1190]

do all blocks have to be programmed?

 

[BANDIT]

Type IIi System does not need a fleet map or codes as you called them, just set it for E2800. Also you will not hear the data channel noise if the scanner is in trunk mode, scan the frequencys in normal conventional mode and you will then hear the data channell. If everything is entered correct in scan mode press trunk and select the bank you want to scan in trunk mode, then press search and it should search the trunk system for active id's. After you program in the ids you want to monitor you can press scan and scan only the ids you have programed.

 

[loumaag]

Type IIi System does not need a fleet map or codes...

Bandit, although he doesn't need to worry, you have too many "i's" there. A Type IIi (which the target here is not) does indeed need the Fleetmap programmed. Ya must have stuttered on the "i" key. :wink: