Scanner Tales: Motorola Programming foibles

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Apropos for programming Motorola radios over the last few decades. While it has gotten a bit better recently, for years programming Motorola radios has been a challenge.

In my small agency we did most of our own day to day repairs and programming. Due to the wide variety of radios in our fleets for the police and fire departments, and later our Public Works and Utilities departments as well as our neighboring agencies in our Mutual Aid groups we had a bunch of cables, several computers and dozens of programming cables.

While we eventually were able to pare down our fleet variety in our own agency, we had little control over what the others bought. I did have a rule though: If they wanted us to program their radios, they had to buy the cable and software for us.

Some radios were harder than others. Motorola’s first PC programmable radio that I dealt with was the Syntor X9000. This came in both trunked and conventional models, we had several each of the VHF and UHF conventional radios for the police department and the Fire Department had a whole bunch of the VHF conventional ones. For the time it was a great leap forward, no crystals, channel elements, PL reeds or other mechanical devices needed to change frequencies, PL’s etc. It even had channel names; what a concept!

At the time we had no idea how backwards the programming on Syntor X9000’s was. Based on current standards it was crazy but back then it was revolutionary. First off, the programming cable was this oddball thing that connected between the shelf unit (the radio box itself that went in the trunk or behind the seat) and the cable running to the control head. Not only did this require going into the trunk to connect to the radio you had to also disconnect the cable to the control head and connect this between the two. It connected to a fairly short serial cable that terminated to a 25-pin connector. OK, that doesn’t sound so bad, computers in that day had serial ports and many of them were 25-pin. If you had a laptop that only had a 9-pin serial cable you could just use a common adapter, right? Nope! You needed a “Radio Interface Box” (RIB). This was a black box roughly the size of a paperback book. It had a DB25 port on one side to connect to the programming cable and a DB-15 port on the other to connect to the computer.

Early RIB’s (Don’t call them RIB Boxes, that would mean ‘Radio Interface Box Box’…) required a power adapter, later they came up with ones that had a 9-volt battery connection. I had 2 RIB’s, and older one that I wired for the 9-volt battery and a newer one that came with a holder for one and was already wired for it.

Then you needed the cable to go to your computer. If you were smart you paid extra and got the one with the 9-pin connector for your laptop and some desktops. You probably also needed either a separate cable for a 25-pin serial port or had an adapter to allow you to connect to one. Either way you probably didn’t have the proper cable with you half the time and had to run back to the office and get it when you arrived at the job.

So, back to the Syntor X9000… This radio, advanced as it was for the time, was pretty basic and backwards by today’s standards. There were actually three separate applications that were needed for programming it. “RDPROG” was used to program the radio itself. This is here you programmed the frequencies, PL codes etc. “CHPROG” was then used to program the channel names and scanlists for the Control Head. If you had a trunking radio, there was a third program for those parameters. Thankfully I never had to deal with trunking then.

The biggest problem was remembering the programming between the radio and control head. Did I mention yet that these programs only ran in DOS? If you are old or stupid enough to remember DOS you will recall that it had no way to run multiple programs at once, it was one at a time. The smart thing to do was to write down the channel list and refer to that list. You had no idea what the channels were in the radio when you programmed the head. With a channel list you could at least use that to make sure the proper names got assigned to the channels. If you forgot a channel all the others after that one were wrong.

At least the X9000 version of the Syntor was easier to deal with than the original Syntors. While we had some of these (“Syntor X” models) I didn’t program them myself, the radio shop came out for them/ If I recall properly, they required a suitcase programmer with a PROM burner. This meant that you wrote the programming to an early version of a memory card and inserted it into the radio. I don’t recall if these PROMs were reusable or not but I remember they were a total PITA.

When we upgraded to Spectra radios in some of the car’s life got a little easier. While you still needed the RIB and special cables at least you could program the control head and radio in one application. The names were directly part of the channel programming and life got easier. The software was still DOS based (that would last a while…) but at least you didn’t need that cheat sheet if you knew the channel plan. We had a fairly simple channel plan, 12 channels for both the VHF and UHF radios and I knew it by heart. That really helped with the Syntors but also made programming easier radios like the Spectra simpler.

The Spectra still required getting to the radio in the trunk but at least you didn’t have to remove the control head cable most of the time. Our Spectras had 2 ports on them, one for the control head and another for programming. As far as I can recall decades later one could use either one, but I could be wrong. Either way we always were sure to mount the Spectras and Syntors with the cable out so we could access it easier for programming. My installer wasn’t happy about that since he liked to hide cables whenever possible, but I insisted on it and since I was the guy that hired him, he followed my wishes (orders).

The Fire Department however was a different story. They installed the shelf units of their Syntor X9000’s differently in every vehicle and usually such that it was nearly impossible to access it easily. In one engine it was behind the driver’s seat and there was no way to get to it without being a contortionist. The worst however was the ladder truck. The radio was mounted on the engine cowling so that the cable could not be removed at all. Let me explain:

The radios in these days had a flat metal bracket that one mounted to the vehicle. The radio itself slid onto the bracket and locked into place with a Motorola 2135 key. This key fit almost all Motorola mobile radios and most radio guys then had a half dozen or more of them. You probably had a 2553 key as well for your base station, satellite receivers and repeater cabinets.

The radio slid into the bracket and locked into place. The lock was spring-loaded, so you did not need the key to install it. Whoever installed the radio into the ladder truck mounted it so that the keyhole was butt up against the wall of the cowling. This made it impossible to release the latch or unplug the control head cable. We had to lift the cab (it had a tilt-over cab) so we could get at the bolts on the bottom of the cab. We were able to loosen them but them they just spun so we had to stick a couple successively larger wedges in order to spin off the nuts. Later we found out that on one of the ambulances and an engine had the same issue. Those two vehicles required getting underneath them on a dolly and removing the bracket’s bolts.

Once we got the radios out, we could reprogram them. We then remounted them the other way so that we could access the cable. The installer was contacted and apparently the (now former) employee that did this to us had done it to other customers as well, leading to his invitation to seek different employment.

After this debacle we convinced the FD to have either myself or one of their guys present when the upfitters were consulted so this did not happen again. The skipped the Spectra and went with MCS2000’s. Thus, I needed another cable and software. My programming case was filling up. Between the police and fire departments we had a dozen or so radio types, requiring 8 or 9 different cables. I had 2 RIB’s as well as a couple different serial cables for them and 2 laptops. One was an older DOS machine to run most of the stuff and then I needed a Windows computer for the newer radios.

Pretty soon I was able to rationalize the police fleet to one type of portable and one type of mobile so now I could do it all from one computer and only needed two cables. The FD had a couple more radio types but eventually I was able to convince them to convert to the same radio types we had, when I did life got easier.

Our Public Works and Water & Electric departments were also in the same boat. Soon after they replaced their old simplex channel with a set of 4 repeaters, they asked me to take care of their radios as well. They had 2 different models of Kenwood portables, 60 TK-3160’s and for the supervisors they had 20 TK3140’s. These were pretty much the same radios except the 3140’s had displays while the 3160’s did not.

Once I took over their radios shortly after they installed the new repeaters, I realized they had programmed the Motorola repeaters with DPL codes that were not available in Motorola mobile and portable radios. The were available in the Kenwood radios so they didn’t really care but we wanted their channels in our radios, so we arranged to have the repeaters reprogrammed with different DPL codes on a Friday night. The PW foreman and I gathered up all 80 of their portable radios and reprogrammed them all in a couple hours.

So now with these Kenwood’s I had 2 more cables and 2 more applications. At least they ran in Windows rather than DOS, this simplified things. In addition, they plugged directly into a serial port, so I didn’t need any RIB, adapters or the like.

When our regional communications consortium consolidated programming resources we had even more radio types to deal with, and these required more cables and applications. I had to get a bigger Pelican case.

While we did have GE programmable radios when I started, I never had to deal with them as they were among the first radios I got rid of. One of our towns bought some Kenwood mobile radios, so there were two more cables and applications making it 4 of each for Kenwood’s, along with the dozen or so each for the various Motorola’s.

It wasn’t just the cables and other stuff required to program the radios; the software was often confusing. The terminology Motorola used could be confusing. In addition, it was pretty common to have a selection here change something in some seemingly unrelated place. I am sure there was a good reason for these things, but I never figured out what it was.

Early radios were pretty simple, you just programmed the frequencies and tone codes into a channel number. Some radios had displays that allowed channel names to be programmed, other than the Spectra that was not to difficult. Then came Zones. I think it was a M1225 that was the first radio I dealt with that had Zones. You programmed up a bunch of channels in the channel list (I called it a “Library”) and then assigned them to Zones. You could program the same channel to multiple Zones if needed. While this reduced the amount of memory required the first couple of times I worked on these radios, I often forgot about this and couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t working as expected. Later I realized that this is almost identical to the way GRE/RS/Whistler scanners work but at the time it made life interesting until I figure it all out.

Towards the end of my career, a few years before I retired, we obtained a large fleet of APX7000 radios. I had never dealt with these type radios before. There were many more options to deal with. To add to the new and exceedingly complicated software I was unable to clone radios. These were on the state and county trunking system and while I could read and write to the radio, I needed an “Advanced System Key” to change any of the trunking parameters. I bought the software and cable anyway as I needed to program all the conventional channels. I had a couple weeks of vacation time I had to take lest I lose them, so I brought the cables and a few radios home to practice programming them. I set up a cheat sheet to detail each item I had to do, in the proper order. I was able to test the programming between two radios to make sure features like MDC encode/decode worked properly and the Emergency buttons functioned. When I came back to work, I started programming a few radios every day until my head went buggy. It took me the better part of two weeks to finish all 75 radios, but they all worked properly. I probably could have brought them to the radio shop and let them clone them, but they charged something like $50 per radio to do that so I just did them in between meetings etc.

When I retired, I sorted out the “Programming Box” and pulled out the cables I owned and those owned by my agencies. Some of my personally owned cables I had no use for, so I left them in the box. I retained one of the RIBs as well as a Kenwood cable, a GM300/CDM cable and a HT1550/HT1250 cable, all of which I bought as I had some of these radios in my personal stash. I also owned some other cables but had no need for them, including a set of Spectra cables. When I sold the last of the radios of mine that used these, I included the cables. I now wish I would have kept the Low Power Spectra cable as it would have worked with my Railroad Spectra I found at a recent hamfest. I had to have a friend help with that radio.

I am sure that many other “radio guys” can attest to the trials I had to go thru over the decades. These days most radios use USB cables so there is no RIB or serial cables required. The software almost always runs in any current or recent version of Windows so no need to retain an old DOS laptop. While the radios are more complicated the programming seems simpler to me these days.
 

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I programmed a bunch of MCS2000s for the 902 band. My first and only MOTO adventure. I never did that again!!!
 

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I keep an old Sony that has Win98 that boots to dos for some of my personal stuff. I also have a CF29 for more modern stuff and my work laptop for current. I brought a personally owned CF19 to my shop to run stuff that is older that we see on occasion. None of the newer techs are familar with anything before Astro25
 

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So, back to the Syntor X9000… This radio, advanced as it was for the time, was pretty basic and backwards by today’s standards. There were actually three separate applications that were needed for programming it. “RDPROG” was used to program the radio itself. This is here you programmed the frequencies, PL codes etc. “CHPROG” was then used to program the channel names and scanlists for the Control Head. If you had a trunking radio, there was a third program for those parameters. Thankfully I never had to deal with trunking then.

The biggest problem was remembering the programming between the radio and control head. Did I mention yet that these programs only ran in DOS? If you are old or stupid enough to remember DOS you will recall that it had no way to run multiple programs at once, it was one at a time. The smart thing to do was to write down the channel list and refer to that list. You had no idea what the channels were in the radio when you programmed the head. With a channel list you could at least use that to make sure the proper names got assigned to the channels. If you forgot a channel all the others after that one were wrong.

At least the X9000 version of the Syntor was easier to deal with than the original Syntors. While we had some of these (“Syntor X” models) I didn’t program them myself, the radio shop came out for them/ If I recall properly, they required a suitcase programmer with a PROM burner. This meant that you wrote the programming to an early version of a memory card and inserted it into the radio. I don’t recall if these PROMs were reusable or not but I remember they were a total PITA.
I worked as an engineer at a TV station for 45 years. Our news department had a number of UHF Syntor X9000's. I used an antiquated DOS computer with a whopping 640K of memory. The application was on 5-1/4" floppies. Yes, I remember the R.I.B. (Radio Interface Box). We also used Motorola Micor radios with the clamshell head and Motracs. When I first started at the station, they were using all tube Bendix radios. They used 15 KHz deviation. The frequency was licensed as remote pickup. We also used a RCA base station for our engineering frequency. For portables, we used RCA Tactec radios with a plug-in mobile mount with a power amp in the trunk. We also used Motorola MT500, MT1000, and HT750 radios. I sympathize with you having to be familiar with multiple radios. A FCC First Class Radiotelephone License was a requirement for my job since I also operated and did some maintenance on the TV transmitter. I had always been involved with radio communications. Back in my early years, I worked with a volunteer radio team with the Baltimore City Office of Disaster Control and Civil Defense. I was in the Main Control Center communications room for the riots in 1968 and Tropical Storm Agnes in 1972. Also, I rebuilt a stack of old Baltimore City Police mobile radios and set them up on a Civil Defense frequency for the radio team to use. They were VHF RCA Super Carfones. The agency also used a number of GE Progress Line base stations. I had a personal HT220 for my own use. I have also been involved with scanners all of my life. I inherited the job of installing, programming, and repairing scanners and 2-way radios for our news department. One of my favorite jobs was going to the top of our tower on TV Hill in Baltimore. It was 900' at what we called the Penthouse. It was a 2-story enclosure at the top of the tower. I was up there many times working on the Motorola 2-way base station and microwave equipment. I really enjoyed the work. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
 

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After I retired from my law enforcement agency, I worked for two radio shops. The first one had a guy who was well-versed in programming many customers' mobile, portable, base stations, and repeaters. Lucky for me, he hung around for two weeks while I got acclimated to the work environment and, of course, programming. I was fortunate that he was available after he left the company, and I called him on several occasions at dump trucks, Eagle's Nest observation towers above a quarry, and the shop. He was very gracious about walking me through some of the odd radios. I was most grateful for his continued assistance. (Thanks, Napoleon D.)

The 2nd radio shop I worked for had six people in the tech room. Techs, a working supervisor, the programmer (me), and a secretary who did the programming before I started. Two great install techs assisted me on numerous occasions when the secretary and I couldn't get a radio to program correctly. (Perpetual thanks to Nik and Andy).

On my first day in the tech room, the secretary (Derecho) was walking me through the various steps of locating the customer's records, their frequency lists, and so forth. She said that if I was stumped, there was one icon on the desktop and I should click on it. It was very comprehensive because it was the CARMACHICAGO (now deprecated) website! I told her to go to the Directors' administrative page, and lo and behold, there was my name (along with the other Directors of CARMACHICAGO). RIch (author of the above article and one of my closest friends) and I have had some good laughs about the popularity of CARMACHICAGO (at a commercial establishment's radio programming computers), and how complete the lists were of many entities, including inputs to repeaters, PL/DPL codes, and chronological order of channels to be programmed into each model of radio.
 

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I was in the county radio shop working with them on a project. The guy said he had a great frequency resource they used for programming the suburban frequencies, they called it "The Bible". He pulled out a well-worn copy of the Scanner Master Illinois Communications Guide. I asked him to look at the name on the cover and his eyes got really big. He had no idea, I had worked with him on stuff for a couple years at that point.

Not long after I was talking to a guy at the State Police Radio Lab and he recognized my name. He told me they bought 30 copies (a case) of the books, and sent one to each ISP Post and kept several copies at the lab.
 

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The radios in these days had a flat metal bracket that one mounted to the vehicle. The radio itself slid onto the bracket and locked into place with a Motorola 2135 key. This key fit almost all Motorola mobile radios and most radio guys then had a half dozen or more of them. You probably had a 2553 key as well for your base station, satellite receivers and repeater cabinets.
Still have several 2135 and 2553 keys in my desk somewhere. Also a couple BF10As for GE radios…
 

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Still have a RIB and RSS on 3.5" floppies. I kept an old 386 desktop w/DOS 6.22 to run it, as RSS always crashed on anything faster than a 486. One of these days I'll replace the backup battery in the 386 and get my old VHF/UHF Maxtracs back on 2m and 440
 

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Uggg.

I got rid of anything that only has DOS software, and I finally ditched anything that needs a 32bit OS.

While I still have a couple UART serial radios, my day to day radios are all true USB.

I refuse to use anything I can't program with 64bit windows 7, 10 or 11.

My current day to day portables are a pair of XTS2500's for VHF and UHF-1, and I have a bunch of Gen 2 XPR portables and a mobile.

Sadly, the MCS2000 has some of the best audio of any radio. However it's analogue only, and needs 32bit OS to program.
 

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Uggg.

I got rid of anything that only has DOS software, and I finally ditched anything that needs a 32bit OS.
I'd take the simplicity of DOS over Windows any day.

Plus, the Maxtracs are 30 year-old analog radios and were my only foray into the realm of Motorola. My only use for them is FM on 2m/440 and RX-only on some misc analog systems, like the NJ Forestry Svc on VHF.
 

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Still have several 2135 and 2553 keys in my desk somewhere. Also a couple BF10As for GE radios…
We had an all-GE police radio network when I started. Some radios had the BF10A locks but we had a second GE key. It was a long time ago in a place far, far away but I seem to recall the MASTR-II cabinets using one key and the mobile MASTR-II's a different one, probably the old "1000GE" shown below.

Regardless I still have these keys on my old work keyring. I gave back all the keys to the buildings of course when I retired but kept these. By then we had all open racks and no radios that used keys.

I used to have a few other Motorola keys like the MOT1 and MOT2 as well as a 2557 and a few others that looked similar to the 2135 but were slightly different. I bought a keyring at a hamfest that had these and never found anything that they fit. I don't know whatever happened to the rest of them, these were the ones I retained:

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Uggg.

I got rid of anything that only has DOS software, and I finally ditched anything that needs a 32bit OS.

While I still have a couple UART serial radios, my day to day radios are all true USB.

I refuse to use anything I can't program with 64bit windows 7, 10 or 11.

My current day to day portables are a pair of XTS2500's for VHF and UHF-1, and I have a bunch of Gen 2 XPR portables and a mobile.

Sadly, the MCS2000 has some of the best audio of any radio. However it's analogue only, and needs 32bit OS to program.
Yep. I am blessed in that anything my shop deals with these days is Moto XTS/XTL or newer with our public safety folks using APXs. I have demoed other vendors models so have the various software packages (RPM, Armada, etc) but I am so used to Moto CPS that I can use it my sleep. I can't imagine using any DOS programs (even for fun) these days. Did that in my youth and don't wish to go through that again.
 

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Yep. I am blessed in that anything my shop deals with these days is Moto XTS/XTL or newer with our public safety folks using APXs. I have demoed other vendors models so have the various software packages (RPM, Armada, etc) but I am so used to Moto CPS that I can use it my sleep. I can't imagine using any DOS programs (even for fun) these days. Did that in my youth and don't wish to go through that again.
I got pretty good at running DOS stuff, even wrote a bunch of Batch Files to set parameters for things like PROBE or Trunker. MotoRSS stuff would usually create its own Batch file so that you could just type "MT1000" at the C:> prompt to run that software no matter the directory it was in. When Windows came into my life I often found it easier to manage files and directories in DOS and thru Windows 98 would often edit the Windows batch file to boot to the DOS prompt instead of directly to Windows.
 

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I'd take the simplicity of DOS over Windows any day.

Plus, the Maxtracs are 30 year-old analog radios and were my only foray into the realm of Motorola. My only use for them is FM on 2m/440 and RX-only on some misc analog systems, like the NJ Forestry Svc on VHF.
That's most hams intro to Motorola if they got into the hobby in the 90's. Motorola Radius products.

I owned a GM300 at one point. Hated programming it. It was an okay radio, better than my Icom ham mobile, but not great, and a BIG radio.

I loved the GP300, MT1000, HT600 and P200 portables.

Looking back, the GM300/M120/Maxtrac were not actually all that great of a radio. Sure they were simple, and fairly rugged. But they were a bottom of the barrel Motorola radio.

As much as I loved the GP300, it had a fantastic MDC1200 sidetone. It didn't even have the ability to do talk around on a repeated channel, if you needed talk around, you had to program a channel position for it.

The GP300 did have a hell of a receiver, and a hell of a front end.

I've owned both the HT1000 and MTS2000, and honestly, I wasn't super impressed with either of them. People swear by them, I didn't like either radio.
 

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Let's see here...

We still have some CDMs in place for paging applications so I still have to keep a 32 bit version of Windows around with a RIB (I don't mind the RIB versus RIBless). I use a CF-19 with a Centrino processor running Windows LTSC 2019 (which should receive security update support until 2029 IIRC) that can also dual boot MS-DOS 7.1 stripped out of Win9x for playing with some older stuff. Everything else I use day to day can run on modern 64 bit Windows though.

Programming cable wise...I store everything in Magpul DAKA pouches. I've got one pouch for APX (which needs to be expanded to add the mini-GCAI for the N series) so three cables, one pouch for Viking radios so add another four cables, one pouch for EFJ legacy radios with two cables, one pouch for Kenwood TK/NX radios that are all serial and not the current generation cables with a four cables there, one bag for Astro 25 radios with three serial cables in that one, and I have another pouch with generic serial cables for console/Quantar/GTR8000/L3-Harris mobile use. So that's what...19 cables for day to day operation...actually 20 as I forgot the BKR adapter/cable for the 5000/9000 series? I also have cables I use for bench use only such as APX and XTL rear accessory cables (both USB and serial though I only ever use USB realistically), EFJ legacy serial cables, portable service cables, etc.

So...should we start talking about the cables that are used for LLA which I don't currently have to use but just order with regular programming cables so I have them when the time comes (some of those are also dual purpose serial programming cables for Astro 25 radios).
 

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Looking back, the GM300/M120/Maxtrac were not actually all that great of a radio. Sure they were simple, and fairly rugged. But they were a bottom of the barrel Motorola radio.
I only had amateur radio gear to compare them to, so at the time, the Maxtrac seemed fairly high end.

I forgot to mention that I did use a Spectra mobile on 900MHz. One of the members of our club was a radio tech. He put up a 900MHz repeater for the club and then programmed/loaned out surplus Spectras for some members to use. The Spectra did feel like a step up from the Maxtrac.
 

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I have been collecting programming cables for years. I have: Saber, STX, Mid-Spectra, High Power Spectra, MCS2000, Jedi (HT/MT-S) GE Orion, MRK,MPA on and on. I have a couple of Moto Battery Ribs and one old mountable one with no battery. I have the GE Ribs and a Price Industries P96A Rib. I just used the P96 on some M-RKs. I like to collect and restore old computers as a hobby and also for ancient radio programming. I have a couple of 286s, and 386s. My Sony Vaio Pentium 3 with windows 98 works well in DOS and Windows for various radio jobs. It's a cool happy place for me.
 
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I have a Toughbook CF-30 running 32-bit Win7 and a CF-31 running 64-bit Win10.
And a collection of cables. I was using these for cables, one color for each brand or family.


 

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I still have a bunch of radios that require DOS programming. For that very reason, I dislike Motorola radios for hammie service, and, of course, most of the old stuff, except for HT1000s and MT2000s are not narrowband compliant on high band and UHF. I've been nursing a DOS laptop that most other people would consider "shot" a long time ago. The keyboard doesn't work. If the disk drive stops working, that's it. It's finished. But I do have RDPROG and CHPROG from back in the day, and I've got maybe 7 or 8 X9000 radios in the garage. What I wish I had were low band radios. Now that most of my kids are driving, I would have liked to have low band mobiles for each vehicle and one for the house. I've got cheap Kenwood 2 meter radios in everything right now, and they're okay, but I also have a repeater to go with them. In Missouri, we used low band exclusively and it was superb.

Fast forward to DMR. Somebody gave me a XPR6550 portable. It's nice. I wish I could program it. I've got the two versions of CPS, but they are funky to work with. I spent about 2 months messing with Windows 7, then got an old 7 machine from my father-in-law's apartment after he died. So, tried CPS in there, and something about that computer hit the Goldilocks zone. Worked great reading and writing. Then one day, I turn the thing on and the Western Digital drive seizes and the thing won't boot up. So, I'm back to square 1. I get another HD, install the OS, and, like my original attempts, I'm doing something wrong. And YES, I'VE GOT A FACTORY CABLE (geez, EVERYTHING on the interwebs points to cables. IT'S NOT THAT!!!!! I can "see" the radio in device manager, I can ping the radio, I can see data transfer, and the ****ing CPS doesn't work with that funky bus they use (can you tell how frustrated this thing has made me?). The most frustrating? The hardware worked with the old HD and OS. How that was set up? Who knows? Anyway, I gave up on it. It's in a box somewhere. If I could make it work, I'd probably get a few more, or move up to a 7550. But noooo... Another dislike, and a touchy subject (it's not rocket science, but the documentation sucks, or is irrelevant... and, obviously, others have it working fine.

I loved working with the Syntor-X Systems 90 control heads. The shop I worked at 31 years ago had an R1800 programmer, but even better, we had an Epsom computer with a printer! Start that program, hit the BREAK key, then List the Basic program from the Prom pack, then you can edit the start-stop frequencies! You could make them 25 - 54 MHz! Or, you could start at 144 MHz. Or 440 - 450. It was the perfect radio, in my view. Nothing elaborate, push the zone and the channel, and you're there. Too bad most shops dumpstered these, or the guys who knew how to use them are long dead. They were absolutely superb. Of course, you could just take a personality board from an X9000, pull the EPROM personality board out, and turn that Syntor-X into an X9000 very easily, usually by changing a few Berg jumpers (it may have been good that I went to class on this radio in Schaumburg... 35 years ago...).

So, ultimately, I'm good with the DOS days, but the fact that only the Maxtrac and GM300 radios were ever updated by very talented people who knew how to program, everything else needs a DOS machine and trying to run it in VMWARE or DOS BOX was about as satisfying as making MOTOTRBO CPS run.

I did have some adventures with XTS3000, 2500, and 5000 radios, conventional and trunked. Also XTL2500 and 5000 mobiles. I found that CPS to be easy to use once you learned what went into the 14 pages behind each frequency and mode. The 5000s were much easier. Around that time, they were also using 5000s in Technisonic radios, too.

In the Motorola shop I worked at, we had to use TCMS to burn PROMS for trunked Syntor-X radios and X9000s. One of the girls in the office would upload it, then we would have to download it, then burn the PROM to plug into the radio (might have been the control head... I don't remember). We had a few transit radios that needed that. We also had a few transit radios that were SP and required a "Long Horn" bus to communicate with an external controller. You had to push a "Request To Talk" button to speak with the 'spatcher, then when they acknowledged, then you could talk. They didn't want the transit buses chatting with each other. They also had a pre-GPS way-point data scheme. You pass a point, it sets a bit, then transmits it back to the office.

And, all that stuff worked pretty well.

BUT... then there was the Mostar. No RIBs would work on these. They needed a MIB. A special interface box. Special software, too. And, the thing was microphonic. Best fixed with a hammer. My repair (after unscrewing about 40 Torx screws attaching the cover to the casting, was to pot an inductor in hot glue, put a plastic and foam gasket around the speaker, and then it would work for a while. If you had one, and you babied it, it would be an "okay" radio for trunked. But for VHF or UHF? Put a hammer to it! Same with MCX100s.

Then there were Spectras. They were okay, but so many different configurations that they were a PITA to look at. And, now, they've got the leaky capacitor problem (and some tantalum caps).

One would have hoped that they could have standardized things, but it as almost like each product needed its own part of the programming bench.
 
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