Creating multiple feeds

[kingpin]

Well, one feed from my house apparently is not enough. Is anyone providing multiple feeds and if so, how are you doing it? i'm currently using icecast / simplecast for my encoding and server. Logic tells me if I want to add another feed, I'll need to add a 2nd physical server. I've got servers, no problem. Just trying to best utilize my resources. Not sure if adding a 2nd sound card and tying it to a 2nd stream will work.

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Lexxx]

i'm currently using icecast / simplecast for my encoding and server. Logic tells me if I want to add another feed, I'll need to add a 2nd physical server.

I use Icecast and Simplecast too, and have no problem running 4 feeds. at www.ykf.ca.

I don't know the limit Icecast can handle, but I read about someone running 50 feeds from 1 Icecast server.

If you want to run 2 feeds, you will need to run 2 Simplecast and have 2 audio cards. There are other combinations, but if you are familiar with Icecast and Simplecast, stick with that.

Peter
www.ykf.ca

 

[w2lie]

I run 3 feeds off of one pc (Simplecast / Oddcast and Icecast).

Just make sure that all of your soundcards are using different chipsets, or you'll have problems (so I hear).

I was lucky enough to find some soundcards with different chips.

Also, if your using the soundcard on your motherboard, make sure you go into the BIOS and tell the PC to still use the soundcard. I found mine became disabled when I installed my 2nd card.

Good Luck

 

[webstar22]

This is what I do, Install Simplecast to multiple directories. ie. Simplecast1, Simplecast2, Simplecast3


Open up each one and config it the way you want it. To save your config press the POWER BUTTON IN THE PROGRAM.

Now each time you open each session they will have there own config.
Each one I run goes to a different sound card.

Icecast can run a wack of feeds.

Wunderground runs all there wxradio feeds from Icecast and that Air traffic control site does also.

http://audioplayer.wunderground.com/ <--- icecast server.

 

[Lexxx]

I run 3 feeds off of one pc (Simplecast / Oddcast and Icecast).
Good Luck

You are running 3 feeds through 3 copies of Simplecast. Correct?

Thanks
Peter
www.ykf.ca

 

[squadman]

Is it possible to use External USB Soundcards to run multiple feeds on one pc?

 

[ListerD]

squadman - yes you can use USB sound devices. We do it for our internet radio station.

If you have just two feeds, why not just run one stream. Split the audio between the left and right channels.

i.e. left channel is one scanner with local and county, and the right channel is state and federal via the other scanner.

 

[kingpin]

Thanks for the replies. Problem is, is that all of my extra soundcards are all the same. I may look for another soundcard that's not the same.

I don't want to mix two radios on one feed as I'd like to have a seperate port for each feed. 8080, 8081, 8082, etc.... Right now I'm running local public safety but there's two other trunked systems that I want to stream as well as local aviation. I have plenty of roon for other sound cards, just not enough diversity between them. *sigh* I'll see what I can come up with tonight.

Thanks for the suggestions,

 

[webstar22]

Thanks for the replies. Problem is, is that all of my extra soundcards are all the same. I may look for another soundcard that's not the same.

I don't want to mix two radios on one feed as I'd like to have a seperate port for each feed. 8080, 8081, 8082, etc.... Right now I'm running local public safety but there's two other trunked systems that I want to stream as well as local aviation. I have plenty of roon for other sound cards, just not enough diversity between them. *sigh* I'll see what I can come up with tonight.

Thanks for the suggestions,

I'm running 3 SB Audigy cards of all the same model and it works fine.

FYI they wouldn't be different ports. They would be different mounts on the icecast server.

Ie. http://yourserver:8000/mount1Feed
http://yourserver:8000/mount2Feed
http://yourserver:8000/mount3Feed

 

[trooperdude]

Here is what I use to stream multiple feeds:


http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010LT-main.html

 

[Lexxx]

Thanks for the replies. Problem is, is that all of my extra soundcards are all the same. I may look for another soundcard that's not the same.

Kingpin

As other have stated here, there are some sound cards that can handle more than one sound input, but often they cost more than simply getting a few PCI audio cards. The problem lies with "drivers". Your computer gets confused if you use identical cards with identical drivers in different PCI slots. If you were desperate, you might try running two different drivers versions to see if that might work. I've never tried it, but in theory it's possible.

If you have as you say lots of empty PCI slots, just get on Ebay and buy a couple of audio cards. I bought a new one for $4. Granted the shipping way about $7, but it is a pretty cheap way to get what you want, and I find the audio quality excellent on these cheap cards. Just my suggestion. Some sample audio card prices.

Cheeers
Peter
www.ykf.ca

 

[keithmj]

Hi All..A question that I haven't seen asked yet so I'll ask it. I am using a sound blaster for one feed on port 8000 which has been running and am setting up a USB IMIC for port 8080 for another feed that I am moving from another computer. My question is..How do I pick which sound card to use with each feed? I can't find anywhere to do this? When I do the sound hardware test everything is working. I am still using SimpleCast and IceCast. Thanks..Keithmj


I found it..I was looking in all the wrong places..Will let you know how it goes..Cheers..KMJ

 

[Lexxx]

You don't need different ports for your feeds. you can run them all through 8000 if you want. What you do need though are different mount points in icecast.

I have four feeds running through 8000 without much problem.

Peter
www.ykf.ca

 

[keithmj]

Hi Peter. I had some idea that might be the case. I have two streaming to Wavestreamer.com accounts and one with IceCast using port 8000. So far it has been the small stuff that has been creating problems for me and when I get everything setup the way that I want them I going to post all the info I can find on my website as tutorials to make it easier for the next guy. At least I have learned alot from doing this as I never used Port Forwarding, two sound cards, audio streaming or using different programs to broadcast scanners.
If you really don't need to use another port them why do others keep saying that you need to? Could this just be a carry over from the old days? Thanks for that tip. I am going to try it..Cheers..Keithmj

 

[Lexxx]

I have two streaming to Wavestreamer.com accounts and one with IceCast using port 8000.

Oh, didn't see the reference to Wavestreamer. Don't know the first thing about those guys. I just stream everthing using Icecast. 4 Simplecast, 4 audio cards, 1 Icecast, 1 computer.

Just a suggestion, but if you are having trouble with Wavestreamer, concentrate on getting your Icecast setup working properly to begin with, without trying to do both at the same time. Get 1 Simplecast running and streaming from your computer through Icecast. Forget abour Wavestreamer for the moment. When you get just one feed working properly, install a second Simplecast into a separate directory. Create a shortcut on your desktop and give it a different name so you don't get the 2 Simplecast versions mixed up that are installed in different directories.

As I said I know nothing about Wavedtreamer or what they do. Can you not duplicate their streaming service by using Icecast and whatever audio source you wish to stream?

 

[keithmj]

Got it..Posted reply in Streaming Audio Test..Thanks..Keithmj

 

[NYRHKY94]

Hello All:

I've been following this nice post and had a request based on what I'm seeing here. It's been mentioned that you need to configure different mounts on the icecast server to have multiple feeds (as opposed to multiple ports).

Can someone who has done this, post an actual example of how this would be configured in the Icecast config file? That would be very helpful to see.

Thanks in advance!

Mike

 

[webstar22]

With icecast you don't need to create static mounts. It will create dynamic mounts when you start feeding it data.

Say I opened up simplecast and setup my mount as /OMGWTFBBQ once you start that encoder icecast will make the mount automaticlly. Once you stop encoding it just goes away.

http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.3.1/ Great place to start.

 

[NYRHKY94]

Thanks for the reply. I had already viewed that document, but still don't quite understand the concept.

One of the post above stated: "You don't need different ports for your feeds. you can run them all through 8000 if you want. What you do need though are different mount points in icecast".

I'm really looking for instructions on how to do the above. I currently run 1 live scanner feed with Icecast/Oddcast (no Simplecast) thru port 8080. I'd like to add a second feed to this set-up and need to know how to properly configure the extra mount pount.

Thanks

 

[webstar22]

When yoiu setup a second session Oddcast just put in the same server and port as feed one but use a different mountpoint name. thats all you need to do.

Feed 1
server.com port 8080
Mount: /scanner1

Feed 2
Server.com port 8080
Mount: /scanner2


to listen to feed one just do http://server.com/scanner1.m3u and feed two http://server.com/scanner2.m3u