CT Senate Bill 5398

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Encryption kills interoperability.

Encryption can kill you ... just ask the DC Fire Department.
No it doesn't. We have fully encrypted interop on almost a daily basis between different law enforcement agencies thay are all using different encryption keys.

Encryption doesn't cause deaths, incompetent people that have no business in public safety communications is the problem.
 

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incompetent people that have no business in public safety communications is the problem.
This is a major problem. I've seen far too many times in this industry where you have people who like to "play radio" when they have no business. One in particular I've noticed, who does really sloppy work. (Not in CT...). Sometimes you get that "radio guy" on an agency who is a "know it all", and their radio system suffers instead of actually hiring real radio techs.
 

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This is a major problem. I've seen far too many times in this industry where you have people who like to "play radio" when they have no business. One in particular I've noticed, who does really sloppy work. (Not in CT...). Sometimes you get that "radio guy" on an agency who is a "know it all", and their radio system suffers instead of actually hiring real radio techs.
I know of an agency that uses a big company, that couldn't get RC4 encryption working on their IPSC system because the company techs have no clue that the KID needs to match on every radio. Agency went back to clear comms because the company couldn't get it to work.
 

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I know of an agency that uses a big company, that couldn't get RC4 encryption working on their IPSC system because the company techs have no clue that the KID needs to match on every radio. Agency went back to clear comms because the company couldn't get it to work.
ct’s state motto should be the “land of kid 1s”
 

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KID 1 should be outlawed. It's only used by lazy ass, incompetent 'teknishuns'

I agree.

If you look at the US DHS NIFOG guide, KID's 1-20 are reserved for federal/international interop usage. (OMG! Interop and Encryption used together!!!) Local KID's should start at 21. Many urban areas have KID's assigned by agency so keys can be shared between agencies easily.
 

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Here's a better idea, start going after the social media pages who are spreading people's information, often inaccurate information. Public safety already has a major transparency issue. Furthermore, there are a ton of tools already in place that should be used for sensitive information. Some more so than others.
 

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Here is the bottom line: Surveillance and matters relating to an active or ongoing investigation run by the "Bureau" (read: Detective, Investigators, etc.) should appropriately be encrypted. There's nothing for the public to know in that regard.

Routine dispatch matters should be in the clear at the very least for the sake of transparency. As a former police officer, a member of the Bar representing POs both in criminal, civil, and internal matters, I have yet to come across an instance. wherein any PO or command level person said "I wish they never put that dispatch OTA". Furthermore, having been involved to varying degrees with the LE community, no one, but no one has ever said that the apprehended "bad actor" had a scanner or other radio capable of receiving commo. My take on this is: It's a tempest in a teapot being put forth by certain vested interests (no need to identify them). The stories that I've heard were that the bad actor had his/her place of redoubt, such as it may have been, under total electronic surveillance (read: cameras and the like...not scanners, handhelds and the like).

This subject is being flogged ad nauseum for no good purpose or result other than venting one's spleen.

Someone should read the HIPPA statute, the committee hearings (what was it that they were thinking as to the purpose of HIPPA), and most importantly the CFR as it relates to HIPPA. Golly, is that what they intended with HIPPA? Surprise!..not quite.

BOOM! Now that I have vented my spleen, thank you for your indulgence. I wish the best of all to you and yours for this Thanksgiving holiday!
 
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Here is the bottom line: Surveillance and matters relating to an active or ongoing investigation run by the "Bureau" (read: Detective, Investigators, etc.) should appropriately be encrypted. There's nothing for the public to know in that regard.

Routine dispatch matters should be in the clear at the very least for the sake of transparency. As a former police officer, a member of the Bar representing POs both in criminal, civil, and internal matters, I have yet to come across an instance. wherein any PO or command level person said "I wish they never put that dispatch OTA". Furthermore, having been involved to varying degrees with the LE community, no one, but no one has ever said that the apprehended "bad actor" had a scanner or other radio capable of receiving commo. My take on this is: It's a tempest in a teapot being put forth by certain vested interests (no need to identify them). The stories that I've heard were that the bad actor had his/her place of redoubt, such as it may have been, under total electronic surveillance (read: cameras and the like...not scanners, handhelds and the like).

This subject is being flogged ad nauseum for no good purpose or result other than venting one's spleen.

Someone should read the HIPPA statute, the committee hearings (what was it that they were thinking as to the purpose of HIPPA), and most importantly the CFR as it relates to HIPPA. Golly, is that what they intended with HIPPA? Surprise!..not quite.

BOOM! Now that I have vented my spleen, thank you for your indulgence. I wish the best of all to you and yours for this Thanksgiving holiday!
BINGO!!!
 
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