My community, for better or worse, is encrypting police main dispatch talkgroups. To their credit, they are doing official feeds that are delayed 15 minutes. How is that going to work with Broadcastify calls?
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Reconrider
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It doesn’t. They are doing streams until sdrtrunk or other program makers make a “delay” option which I don’t see going well since it’s time synced between the upload and website time.
I'm assuming you are probably referring to Chicago.
When they go encrypted anything captured by a volunteer provider to Broadcastify Calls will stop and no longer be provided, since no volunteers have the ability to decrypt encrypted transmissions.
When they go encrypted anything captured by a volunteer provider to Broadcastify Calls will stop and no longer be provided, since no volunteers have the ability to decrypt encrypted transmissions.
No sir - Louisville Metro Police. Louisville Metro Police 1 – Divisions 6 and 7 Live Audio Feed and a few more.
They are official feeds presumable provided by Louisville Metro Police or perhaps Louisville Emergency Services who does dispatching on the MetroSafe system. There is a delay of 15 minutes, whether that is something worked out with Broadcastify or they have done in house, I can't advise.
Whether this is an SDR capture or audio from a radio or scanner I cannot advise.
If it's an official feed they would be using official (Motorola or otherwise) radios, in order to decrypt the traffic. Alternatively, they could be pulling audio right off a dispatch console.
Consumer-level stuff does not have the capability to decrypt.
Thanks! I suspected they probably are capturing the audio from a "real system radio" or perhaps pulling audio directly from an unused console or two and piping that to Broadcastify. I guess that leads to another question - does Broadcastify create the delay, is the delay a function of the capturing software or is the official provider doing something the inject the delay?
But for my main question, "is there a way to receive a delayed feed on the Broadcastify FEEDS platform, it sounds like "no there is not".
But for my main question, "is there a way to receive a delayed feed on the Broadcastify FEEDS platform, it sounds like "no there is not".
cgaines78
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Is there a way to delay 10-15 min with Broadcastify? Our county agencies are going 7/800 Trunked and maybe encryption on Law enforcement. If I could do a 15 min delay I might get them to allow me to broadcast straight from our dispatch center. Didn't know if there was a software option or how these cities that were doing it had it set up. These would be OFFICIAL feeds from agencies, not just a scanner upload.
Feed Provider Terms of Service - What can and cannot be broadcast
Feed Provider Terms of Service - What can and cannot be broadcast Feed Providers are not allowed to broadcast: "SWAT type" operations if on channels or talkgroups dedicated to those op...
Written approval for feed delays are typically only granted to official feed providers.
wtp
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i think i am one of the few that would want all feeds delayed.
if i hear a siren or hear about something big on TV, i could then 'tune in' and hear it from the beginning.
if i hear a siren or hear about something big on TV, i could then 'tune in' and hear it from the beginning.
Unication pagers will do AES/DES/ADP so they could use one of those if the department wanted to spend $600 insted of $6000 for the radio providing the feed
Unication pagers will do AES/DES/ADP so they could use one of those if the department wanted to spend $600 insted of $6000 for the radio providing the feed
Interesting. Just out of curiosity, how does the encryption key get loaded? How would one go about asking a system administrator to reveal their encryption key/keys?
Encryption Key Tool from Unication.
1. As @jeepsandradios noted, Encryption Key Tool from Unication.
2. They won't. Don't even ask; it's encrypted for a reason. If you work there and have a legitimate reason they might give you the key, but if you turn around and use it to set up a scanner stream, you'll find yourself fired so fast your head will spin (at best).
When the City of Akron provided a delayed feed of encrypted dispatch they used this application: Radiodelay
A virtual audio cable piped the delayed audio into the standard Broadcastify uploader
Remember we're talking about an official feed in this case, so the radio or dispatch console used probably falls under the control of somebody already on the system (like the 911 center), so programming the feed radio with encryption keys is probably going to be the same as programming any other radio on the system. It's not an outsider saying "can you give me the keys so I can program my radio"?
I guess a better way of asking my question is: "Will Broadcastify be coming up with a way to add these delayed official feeds to their calls platform?"
Its not possible at this date and time. There is no real way to do this to SDR type set ups. And that is all CALLS is. SDR type stuff plugged in. No such thing as an "OFFICIAL" feed on Calls. No agency in its right mind would EVER allow an SDR set up. No way, no how. Your not gonna plug in software into their systems. Just the very thought will have the IT folks, and LEGAL folks loading artillery and tracking the person that dared to think that.
Technically it's possible to add a delay in the software. No point in it if it's not permitted.
Why not? The regular Broadcastify platform offers "official" feeds Official Feeds.
I believe Lindsay requires the request written on department letterhead to make it happen.
Why not? No agency is going to put an SDR into their radio system, that is why. No IT department, or Legal department is going to allow tinkering in a secured, controlled radio system for the ****zNGigglz of BCFY. Just facts. Official feeds are direct audio from an radio that has been specifically set aside for that use, not an SDR that is jury rigged into an system. The Calls Platform is NOT scanner/radio, that is what the basic BCFY platform is. Calls is specifically for software driven stuff. Its all about the technowiz toys, and if you go back to its inception, the way it was advertised was specifically to software folks. (Specialized incentives for them to set up an SDR type constant influx of unfiltered info, yet several feeds are filtered by the provider and not everything that is broadcast... Honesty in advertising?* ) Why in heck would an agency cut in an SDR, thru DSD+, Fastlane etc... When they have a radio system that can do a feed? That would just about be Federal Government level stupidity. Maybe if the agency is run by Joe Biden, it would make sense? Also, why would they feed encrypted audio that can't be unencrypted thru an SDR type system when they can use an radio/Unication that has the keys and pass clear audio?
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