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Does anyone have any details about a repeater (675) in this area? There is one active but I can’t find anything about it online. Thanks.
Are you talking about the SCENIC CITY 675 in Iowa Falls, IA? If so, it is listed at:

 

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Are you talking about the SCENIC CITY 675 in Iowa Falls, IA? If so, it is listed at:

Thanks, but no. I meant by the title that it was just Des Moines local. Someone has pointed out that it's a Skywarn repeater which seems to use a 'typical' input code of 141.3. I still don't know who owns or maintains it or if it requires permission. Making progress.
 

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Thanks, but no. I meant by the title that it was just Des Moines local. Someone has pointed out that it's a Skywarn repeater which seems to use a 'typical' input code of 141.3. I still don't know who owns or maintains it or if it requires permission. Making progress.

.675 with a 141.3Hz PL tone was the old standard REACT/Travelers assistance setup. Idea at one time was that having a common repeater pair/PL tone for travelers assistance was a good idea. With REACT essentially gone, that frequency/tone setup is still a generally agreed upon standard for open repeaters. No one who understood the reasons behind it would set up a closed repeater on that frequency/tone.

In other words, if you have your GMRS license, give a call on the repeater. No one running that pair/tone should be upset if someone uninvited showed up.

As for SkyWarn, while they may use the same PL tone, it's likely a coincidence. Not really any correlation between the two.
 

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.675 with a 141.3Hz PL tone was the old standard REACT/Travelers assistance setup. Idea at one time was that having a common repeater pair/PL tone for travelers assistance was a good idea. With REACT essentially gone, that frequency/tone setup is still a generally agreed upon standard for open repeaters. No one who understood the reasons behind it would set up a closed repeater on that frequency/tone.

In other words, if you have your GMRS license, give a call on the repeater. No one running that pair/tone should be upset if someone uninvited showed up.

As for SkyWarn, while they may use the same PL tone, it's likely a coincidence. Not really any correlation between the two.
Thanks.....I wasn't aware of the history. 141.3 did work to key up the repeater, so I'll give it a go with my callsign and see. Now that I finally have 'SCAN' working (after a RESTORE), I've picked up a couple more repeaters within range of me.
 

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In other words, if you have your GMRS license, give a call on the repeater. No one running that pair/tone should be upset if someone uninvited showed up.
The repeater is listed as having a 'travel tone' (141.3 I assume) so that transient folk can use the repeater, yet it shows as CLOSED in the listing. Seems contradictory, but I did send a note to the owner asking permission to use it. Maybe 'closed' refers to locals using the repeater regularly without first being screened by the owner? I imagine none of this is any big deal, just that I'm the new kid on the block and trying to find my way through this. For example, even in my limited history as a Ham, I've never had to deal with a closed or permission-only Ham repeater, so this is new to me.

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Thanks all for your help.
 

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The repeater is listed as having a 'travel tone' (141.3 I assume) so that transient folk can use the repeater, yet it shows as CLOSED in the listing. Seems contradictory, but I did send a note to the owner asking permission to use it. Maybe 'closed' refers to locals using the repeater regularly without first being screened by the owner?

Repeaters can run more than one tone. They may have 141.3Hz open for travel info use, and other tones for other uses.

Years and years ago I had access to a high level GMRS machine and had my own tone on the repeater. That gave my family noise free communications over a very wide area. Other users were on the system, but they all had their own tone also.
 

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Repeaters can run more than one tone. They may have 141.3Hz open for travel info use, and other tones for other uses.

Years and years ago I had access to a high level GMRS machine and had my own tone on the repeater. That gave my family noise free communications over a very wide area. Other users were on the system, but they all had their own tone also.
In your example of a repeater with two different input tones, would one (or both) of those tones need to be filtered out from the output?
 

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In your example of a repeater with two different input tones, would one (or both) of those tones need to be filtered out from the output?

The tone panels usually pass the incoming tone out on the TX side.
I had access to a GMRS repeater for years and had my own tone. I was assigned 254.1Hz. When I transmitted into the repeater with 254.1, it transmitted the 254.1 back to me. I set up the channel with that PL tone on both the TX and RX side. I'd -only- hear traffic from my other radios, and not other users with different tones.

"The tone panels usually pass the incoming tone out on the TX side." Truth is, a good tone panel/repeater can be set up to do whatever you want. That's the way this one was set up and what was common 'back-in-the-day'
 

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@drdeputy, were you successful in receiving permission? If so, how's it working?
I'm also in Des Moines and new to GMRS & HAM.
 

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@drdeputy, were you successful in receiving permission? If so, how's it working?
I'm also in Des Moines and new to GMRS & HAM.
No, I inquired about permission using the contact inquiry/request on the repeaterbook site, but there has been no response. I haven't taken the position of just transmitting and trying to see what other, current users know.
 

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@drdeputy I also have not received a request response to that repeater.
As a GMRS noob myself, do you have a good listing of repeaters and access contacts for DSM and surrounding areas? Have not found much yet in the way of online documentation. Thanks!
 

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Just a heads up that there's one on the southside that I've been able to hit along SE14th just north of E. Army Post. The owner was very explicit that I did have permission. It's always been very quiet when I hit it.
 
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