Digital Scanners..which one?

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BigEd1314

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I've got a question for everyone who listens to KSP. Which digital scanner would you recommend to listen to KSP with? Soon, i'll be in the market for a digital scanner, and want to know which one would work the best with their system. I'll be looking for a handheld scanner by the way. Thanks all.

-Ed
 

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Three choices for handhelds. Uniden BCD396T, GRE PSR-500, or Radio Shack Pro-96. The Uniden has superior alpha tagging, but my dis-likes about it are the lack of a direct BNC antenna connection and it's slim case makes it a little unstable when its standing upright. The GRE PSR-500 has the Multi-Site Roaming feature that neither of the other scanners have. Only dis-like, no system scan lists that can be turned on & off. The Pro-96 does not track LTR, has a small display with only 12 characters per line and the PC/IF connection only allows cloning & programing, no computer control. IMHO, PSR-500 is the superior radio if you have $500.00 to shell out. The Pro-96 was on sale before Christmas for around $380.00 so you probably will find it to be the cheapest price out there.
 

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In general, it depends on what part of Kentucky you're in:

a) Most of the major metro sites in KY have either a mix of conventional Motorola and APCO-25 (conventional and trunked), are heavily EDACS, *or* a mix or LTR and APCO-25 conventional. (The Florence/Covington/Newport area are good examples of the former--not just KSP but Cincinatti's APCO-25 system across the border; Lexington is a good example of the middle category, having an EDACS system for Fayette County public safety whilst still having KSP bases. Louisville fits in the third category, as there are existing APCO-25 systems nearby (SAFE-T) and LTR systems (Floyd County's public safety net) as well as existing Motorola sites and a planned trunked APCO-25 system in Louisville proper soon.)

Owensboro is not unlike Lexington's situation in that it has KSP monitorable as well as SAFE-T (in Indiana) and a local EDACS public safety system. Paducah's present public safety system, much like that in Louisville, is in transition; they're using an LTR system for fire channels now but will be converting to Motorola system county-wide. On top of this, USEC in Paducah is EDACS standard. Bowling Green, much like Louisville, has a "double culture" of Motorola and LTR systems along with the KSP conventional APCO-25 system; the same goes for most of the LBL area.

b) Do you have interests beyond just public safety monitoring (security agencies, utilities, etc.)? (A *lot* of these are on EDACS through much of the state, and LTR is used heavily in Louisville for this.)

c) Are you going to be listening to systems potentially affected by rebanding?

Once you know what systems are in your area and what your primary listening interests cover, you can plan appropriately:

a) If you only need APCO-25 and EDACS capability, you can probably go safely with a Pro-96; they're quite good and solid radios. If you are *primarily listening to KSP* you might even go for one of the older Uniden digital trunking radios.

b) If you need LTR capability as well one of the Uniden quad-trackers (like the BCD996T) or (my personal preference) the GRE PSR-500 (or its "base brother" the GRE PSR-600) will work nicely. (I had a Pro-96 for years but recently upgraded to the PSR-500, in large part because I *like* GRE kit and in large part because there are a ton of LTR trunked systems here locally.)

c) If you are going to be listening to systems potentially affected by rebanding, your choices are essentially the newer Uniden quad-trackers, the Pro-96, and the GRE PSR-500 and PSR-600. (None of the other radios are capable of being properly redone to work with rebanding. The Pro-96 accepts custom trunking tables (which will be necessary when rebanding comes) with Don Starr's Win96 software; the newer Uniden and GRE kit are firmware upgradable and firmware upgrades will likely happen when rebanding finally occurs.)

One other consideration--are you in an area where there may be multiple KSP posts using the same frequency? (Unlikely, but possible.) If so, the GRE quad-trunkers (PSR-500 and PSR-600) *do* have the definite advantage that they decode NAC codes (the rough equivalent of PL/DPL codes for APCO-25 systems); I've found this quite useful in monitoring two posts of KSP here locally in Louisville (there are two separate Shepherdsville transmitters, one being for its actual KSP district, the other for the neighbouring district; fun with Jefferson and Bullitt Counties being right on the edge of a border area :D).

The best scanner is the one which has the features you want and--as best as manufacturers today can provide--picks up what you want to in the price range you're willing to afford. (Sorry, Christian County--I don't know of anyone who does an MPT-1327 scanner. Yet. Perhaps GRE and/or Uniden will take interest if enough people ask.)
 

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OK, i guess i should have mentioned that. The area's where i will be listening are KSP post 8 and post 11 (8 is morehead/rowan county, and 11 is london/laurel county) both are not big cities with hills. The scanner will also be used as a public safety scanner for conventional fire, polie, and ems. There are no trunked systems that i intend to listen to, just KSP/digital and conventional. I am wanting something that will do a good job of hearing/decoding KSP, but will serve as a all around good scanner, since it will be my primary unit for scanning. Thanks for the help all.

-Ed
 

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BigEd1314 said:
OK, i guess i should have mentioned that. The area's where i will be listening are KSP post 8 and post 11 (8 is morehead/rowan county, and 11 is london/laurel county) both are not big cities with hills. The scanner will also be used as a public safety scanner for conventional fire, polie, and ems. There are no trunked systems that i intend to listen to, just KSP/digital and conventional. I am wanting something that will do a good job of hearing/decoding KSP, but will serve as a all around good scanner, since it will be my primary unit for scanning. Thanks for the help all.

-Ed

Ah, no prob there--in that case, I don't think you can go wrong with a Pro-96 (pity that I just sold mine, otherwise I'd be willing to sell :D). If you *do* go with a Pro-96, you will want to set the DSP firmware to v1.2 (you can download the program for that from Radio Shack's website)--it seems to behave a bit better on KSP than v1.3 or v1.4.

One other possibility is the PSR-500, if only because you will be going between two different areas that use the same frequency but for different KSP channels (Laurel County channel A--453.46250--is the same as Rowan County channel B)--and the main advantage of the PSR-500 there would be differentiating them by NAC. It is *not* something I'd sweat terribly, though, as the two counties are far enough apart that it'd be very unlikely they'd interfere with each other :D

Both are good radios; I'm sure those who tend to use Uniden kit will also give their own recommendations. :3
 

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Hi Ed....
My vote would be a PSR 500 or a PRO 96....I'd go with the 500, tho, because of the NAC functions and the ease of use. I don't yet have one in hand but have programmed them (with WIN500) and I think that would be an easier radio given your interests. It is easy to use with one hand-most of the time-and allows fairly quick changes in your scanlists (which can be tailored to exact requirements. If you get a 96--which will still work very well in your area--definitiely revert it to the 1.2 DSP for really god KSP decoding....
 

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unitcharlie said:
Hi Ed....
My vote would be a PSR 500 or a PRO 96....I'd go with the 500, tho, because of the NAC functions and the ease of use. I don't yet have one in hand but have programmed them (with WIN500) and I think that would be an easier radio given your interests. It is easy to use with one hand-most of the time-and allows fairly quick changes in your scanlists (which can be tailored to exact requirements. If you get a 96--which will still work very well in your area--definitiely revert it to the 1.2 DSP for really god KSP decoding....

Oh, if he wants to spring for the PSR-500 I'd definitely recommend it--it IS a really, really nice radio. :D (And yes, it is quite possibly one of the first GRE radios that the programming software isn't an absolute *necessity*...though I do still recommend it highly.) I ended up selling my Pro-96 because after I got the '500 I had not *touched* the '96--the PSR-500 is more sensitive, I can sort by service/county/etc., and the scanner in general is more fun to use. :3

Also, one good thing about the '500 is there is already a far more diverse field out there for programming software (with the Pro-96, the only software really worth discussing is Win96 (yes, ScanCat Lite does exist for the Pro-96, but trust me when I say it is horrid and migraine inducing compared to Win96 :D); with the PSR-500, we have Win500, PSREdit (my favourite at the moment), upcoming Butel software, I'm working on a little something on the MacOS X/Linux side of things... :D). PSREdit behaves the best for me so far (with how I tend to sort scan lists and such), but Win500 tends to be better for cutting and pasting large blocks of frequencies. Your mileage may vary :D

I'd say if he is more worried about price, the Pro-96 can't be beat; if he wants the best darn scanner for the money and is looking at more of the $500 range (as opposed to the $300 range), spring for the PSR-500. :3 Either would work happily where he is.
 
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