DSDPlus DSD fast lane

lonlywolf65

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2020
Messages
144
Location
Forest Lake
Hello all... I am having an issue with my DSD fast lane....... I am getting a Start up trunking site load fail missing or invalid load data??
I am not sure what this is or what is causing it to happen I haver attached a screen shot to help figure this out... I sure hope it is something easy..lol Thank you all in advance for any help!!Screenshot 2024-10-20 070554.png
 

Reconrider

Inside the Galaxy
Joined
Sep 26, 2017
Messages
1,933
Location
Radio Galaxy
Since you didn't link the system you're trying to monitor, you need to move the frequency to the control channel
 

dave3825

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
8,624
Location
Suffolk County NY
The file, DSDPlus.siteloader can be populated with trunked systems, trunked sites and conventional channels.

If using the feature to start a system is something of non-interest to you, simply ignore the error.

If you want to utilize the feature to select a system or channel to load up, then you need to populate the file with the content of interest.

DSDPlus.siteloader file says:
; DSD+ system/site loader file
;
; you can edit this file while DSD+ is running
;
;
; line format:
;
;
; trunked network entries:
;
; protocol, networkID, 0, "network name"
;
;
; trunked site entries:
;
; protocol, networkID, siteNumber, "site name"
;
; for TIIIStd and TIIInonStd, add TIII model code (T/S/L/H) before networkID
;
; for TIIIStd, siteNumber format = area.site
; for TIIInonStd, siteNumber format = site
;
;
; conventional channel entries:
;
; Conventional, pseudoNID, pseudoSiteNumber, "frequencyInMHZ protocol channelName"
;
; note: "Conventional" can be shortened to "Conv"
;
; recognized conventional channel protocol names:
;
; Analog (NFM analog)
; FM (NFM analog)
; AM (AM analog - must be supported by FMPx)
; D-Star
; Fusion
; NXDN48
; NXDN96
; DMR
; DCDM
; dPMR
; ProVoice
;
;
; trunked site entries can be copied directly from your DSDPlus.sites file
;
;
; frequency data for P25 trunked sites has to be present in the DSDPlus.P25data file;
; manually tune to P25 control channels to auto-build the DSDPlus.P25data file
;
; frequency data for non-P25 trunked sites has to be present in the DSDPlus.frequencies file;
; this data has to be manually added to the DSDPlus.frequencies file by you
;
; frequency data for conventional channels must be present
; in every conventional channel entry in this file.
; Conventional channel data does not have to be added to any other DSD+ data file
;
;
; data for any site or channel can be present more than once,
; i.e. favorite / frequently monitored channels/sites could be duplicated at the top of this file
;
;
; examples:
;
; P25, BEE11.123, 0, "Mulberry PS"
; P25, BEE11.123, 1.1, "North"
; P25, BEE11.123, 2.2, "South"
;
; Con+, 1234, 0, "ACME"
; Con+, 1234, 1, "Site 1"
; Con+, 1234, 1, "Site 2"
;
; Conv, 1, 1, "119.150 AM ATIS"
; Conv, 1, 2, "163.830 P25 FBI"
; Conv, 1, 3, "443.900 D-Star"
; Conv, 1, 4, "442.200 Fusion"
; Conv, 1, 5, "462.500 DMR"
; Conv, 1, 6, "455.100 NXDN48"
;
; Conv, 1, 11, "162.550 WX1"
; Conv, 1, 12, "162.400 WX2"
; Conv, 1, 13, "162.475 WX3"
; Conv, 1, 14, "162.425 WX4"
; Conv, 1, 15, "162.450 WX5"
; Conv, 1, 16, "162.500 WX6"
; Conv, 1, 17, "162.525 WX7"
; Conv, 1, 18, "161.650 WX8"
; Conv, 1, 19, "161.775 Analog WX9"
; Conv, 1, 20, "163.275 FM WX10"


User @CanesFan95 wrote up a nice guide

The thread
DSD+ 2.465 Setup Guide:
https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/dsd-2-465-setup-guide-july-3-2024.475645/


The guide
 

cg

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Dec 13, 2000
Messages
4,851
Location
Connecticut
One of the options in the menu under Control> Startup Options. This is how you want the program to open. You may have some choice selected that you have no information populated in the various files.

chris
 

daniellanes

Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2024
Messages
10
I believe you need sintonize the control channel, from me working well.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot at Oct 20 13-04-22.png
    Screenshot at Oct 20 13-04-22.png
    535.6 KB · Views: 15

lonlywolf65

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2020
Messages
144
Location
Forest Lake
Well I went to the start up guide... I figured out I do not have the FMPP.exe file After reading a bit past the beginning I started to get lost... I am hoping someone is willing to walk me thru this delema.. Most of this is just code to me.. of which I do not understand unless I'm taught...
I did try a few settings in the control menue. but nothing changed ???
 
Last edited:

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
11,029
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
Well I went to the start up guide... I figured out I do not have the FMPP.exe file After reading a bit past the beginning I started to get lost... I am hoping someone is willing to walk me thru this delema.. Most of this is just code to me.. of which I do not understand unless I'm taught...
I did try a few settings in the control menue. but nothing changed ???
You do have the FMPP.exe file. How do we know? Look at your first post in the black screen on the right. DSDPlus looked to check to see if certain files (and appropriate versions of files) existed, and FMPP.exe is there.

But more importantly, if you aren't using an RSP device you don't need FMPP anyway. It appears you are using a standard dongle and FMP24.exe, which is what you are supposed to use.

It should be very simple though (if you are using Fast Lane). IF you are using Fast Lane, you only need to run FMP24-CC.bat and 1R.bat

And if you've gone into the menu system and changed 50 things for which you didn't know what they do, then you should make sure DSDPlus is shut down and then go into your DSDPlus folder and delete DSDPlus.bin. Then start up FMP24-CC.bat and 1R.bat
 

lonlywolf65

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2020
Messages
144
Location
Forest Lake
You do have the FMPP.exe file. How do we know? Look at your first post in the black screen on the right. DSDPlus looked to check to see if certain files (and appropriate versions of files) existed, and FMPP.exe is there.

But more importantly, if you aren't using an RSP device you don't need FMPP anyway. It appears you are using a standard dongle and FMP24.exe, which is what you are supposed to use.

It should be very simple though (if you are using Fast Lane). IF you are using Fast Lane, you only need to run FMP24-CC.bat and 1R.bat

And if you've gone into the menu system and changed 50 things for which you didn't know what they do, then you should make sure DSDPlus is shut down and then go into your DSDPlus folder and delete DSDPlus.bin. Then start up FMP24-CC.bat and 1R.bat
I stand corrected thank you!! Next I read about about FMP.x file doing a benchmark..?? not sure if I need to do that?? This worked a few weeks ago fine..?? Maybe I clicked something in a menu Tho not exacly sure how it all works... I mainly just tune to my local frquencies to monitor police p25
From what I am seeing is that it is not syncing to p25 and a bad DUID? Not sure what all this means but at least im reading it???
any help is greatly appreciated !!!
 
Last edited:

dave3825

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
8,624
Location
Suffolk County NY
I believe you need sintonize the control channel, from me working well.
Tuning to a cc after the program loads won’t eliminate a start up error. I also do not see the same error in your screen shot. Do you get that error when starting up ?


@lonlywolf65 can you post the contents of the files you are clicking to start DSDPlus?
 

lonlywolf65

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2020
Messages
144
Location
Forest Lake
Well I did not see any errors but did see that no frequency data files found I start with FMP24cc batch file then 1R batch file
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot 2024-10-20 124425.png
    Screenshot 2024-10-20 124425.png
    283.2 KB · Views: 11
Last edited:

CanesFan95

Analog already is interoperable.
Joined
Feb 14, 2008
Messages
3,251
Location
FL
The 3 files you want to work with are:

  • DSDPlus.networks
  • DSDPlus.sites
  • DSDPlus.frequencies

Each Network is basically a trunking system. Each trunking system can have one or more than one site. Then, each site has its frequencies. Open 'em with Notepad to make edits, preferably in the order listed above. It will take some time to read up and learn the format of how to enter the data, but there is a little information in the commented rows ; inside each file at the top. The setup guide has examples with screenshots.
 

dave3825

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
8,624
Location
Suffolk County NY
If what you listen to is a p25 trunked system, those frequencies are stored and maintained by the program so all you need to do in that event is tune to an active control channel on the system. If Dmr, Nxdn Cap+ etc those need to be set up as system which require at minimum a networks file entry, a sites entry with the sites you monitor and a frequencies file with the freqs for each site. Without know exactly what your scanning, ie: trunked systems or conventional it’s difficult to give you specific info on what needs to be done.
 

Enjoi19

Active Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Mar 17, 2020
Messages
978
Worth noting that you’ve got what appears to be maxed out gain and a very weak signal (if any at all), if the frequency you are sitting on there is the one you intend to try to utilize.
 

lonlywolf65

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2020
Messages
144
Location
Forest Lake
If what you listen to is a p25 trunked system, those frequencies are stored and maintained by the program so all you need to do in that event is tune to an active control channel on the system. If Dmr, Nxdn Cap+ etc those need to be set up as system which require at minimum a networks file entry, a sites entry with the sites you monitor and a frequencies file with the freqs for each site. Without know exactly what your scanning, ie: trunked systems or conventional it’s difficult to give you specific info on what needs to be done.
I do believe that I listen to P25 trunked frequencies....I have tried a few different ones and no change.... Antenna wire??
 

lonlywolf65

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2020
Messages
144
Location
Forest Lake
I do believe that I listen to P25 trunked frequencies....I have tried a few different ones and no change.... Antenna wire??
I can say that I did have a faulty antenna wire... Now I feel dumb... a basic check I failed to do... How ever I do appreciate all the help that has been offered!!! The first clue was mentioning the gain and no signal... Now to figure out how to change the gain... It has beena while since I have used this very much....
Again thanks to all!!! 73 KF0EXO
 

dave3825

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
8,624
Location
Suffolk County NY
Focus on, meaning click on the top title bar of fmp24 and g & G are gain. One raises and the other lowers

If it’s a large trunked system it might be worth becoming a premium subscriber to radio reference as one of the perks is being able to download talkgroups and sites files formatted for DSDPlus.
 
Top