EFJ 5100 Programming

[K2SL]

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I am looking for help in programming EFJ 5100 radios to a P25 system for my Fire Department. I already have the system key and authorization. Any help would be appreciated. This is way different than programming vertex radios.

 

[rfradioconsult]

You will need to determine which 5100 platform radios you have, the firmware will determine which version of the PCC programming software you will need. Be aware that EFJ has ended support on the earlier versions of the 5100 series radios.

 

[jaspence]

Sent you a PM.

 

[jaspence]

The Civil Air Patrol still uses these radios. They had a display of them at Dayton. With a letter of authorization, you might be able to get help from them to do the job for you or at least guide you through the process.

 

[K2SL]

From whom would I need to get the letter from?

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[K2SL]

Also, I have the key programmed in along with the channels, the problem is getting the talk group to be selected using the top knob on the radio and not the channel.

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[FFPM571]

If you have authorization then have a radio shop who knows the programming do it. If you have no idea what your doing then you will do more harm than good when trying to program something your not familiar with.

 

[jim202]

Admins if this is an illegal post please delete.

I am looking for help in programming EFJ 5100 radios to a P25 system for my Fire Department. I already have the system key and authorization. Any help would be appreciated. This is way different than programming vertex radios.

What version of software do you have to program your radio?

Is this on a trunking system or just conventional P25?

If this is a trunking system, I hope it is a phase 1 trunking system.

Depending on the age of the radio, it may or may not be able to do what you want. Look at the name tag on the radio and tell us where the radio was made. If it's not Texas, you probably not going to be able to do what you want to do. There is not enough memory in the radio.

It will also depend on what features are active in your radio. If trunking and P25 are not turned on, your going to have to find some way to turn it on.

You said you have the system key. Is the system key from EF Johnson or Harris, or is it from the trunking system (Motorola)? Your going to need a systems key from Harris to be able to program the 5100 onto the trunking system.

 

[K2SL]

So, I have the appropriate software and key, but when I leave a certain area I get an out of svc message.

 

[Hooligan]

So, I have the appropriate software and key, but when I leave a certain area I get an out of svc message.

I looked up the out of service message in my EFJ 5100 manual & it means that you need to get radio/comms training from your FD Training or Communications Officer ASAP, or-else the radio will stop working.

 

[K2SL]

I will now have to remember that people are not helpful on here.

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[ecps92]

Yup, sounds like Radio 101 is needed and or the radio is not programmed correctly to switch (if they have them) sites as he/she travels around

Sometimes you try and help, but when we don't give them the answer they want, we are not helping them..... :evil:

Out of Range I've heard of
Out of Service is a new one

http://www.ucfdtn.com/5100ES M2-3 Operators Manual 04-09.pdf

I looked up the out of service message in my EFJ 5100 manual & it means that you need to get radio/comms training from your FD Training or Communications Officer ASAP, or-else the radio will stop working.

 

[K2SL]

Yup, sounds like Radio 101 is needed and or the radio is not programmed correctly to switch (if they have them) sites as he/she travels around

Sometimes you try and help, but when we don't give them the answer they want, we are not helping them..... :evil:

Out of Range I've heard of
Out of Service is a new one

http://www.ucfdtn.com/5100ES M2-3 Operators Manual 04-09.pdf

Out of range is what I meant. These are new radio types with new software. I have been programming vertex, icom, and motorola for years. I am trying to figure this out to save money for my department and am having trouble getting the trunking in right.

 

[ecps92]

You really need to talk to the System Administrator for that TRS

I'm sure, if they want end users programming they will assist you, otherwise there are plenty of variables on a TRS
that maybe hidden in the software, or system requirements by the Owner

Out of range is what I meant. These are new radio types with new software. I have been programming vertex, icom, and motorola for years. I am trying to figure this out to save money for my department and am having trouble getting the trunking in right.

 

[rfradioconsult]

There are a diverse group of folks that are knowledgable and willing to help with problem solving but you need to provide as much info as you can with your original post. None of us are very good mind readers but pretty good radio guys with many years af experience.

Welcome, perhaps you can share some of your knowledge if someone needs help.

 

[K2SL]

Ok, the problem is every control channel I am inputing except one gives me an invalid frequency error. I am using pcconfigure 2.18.2

 

[rfradioconsult]

What is your firmware version? I have one with ver 6.6.2 800 MHz I also have PCC 2.18.

 

[K2SL]

6.6.10

 

[SCPD]

You do not know how to properly program this radio. HAVE THE SYSTEM ADMIN do it, cause all your going to do is cause trouble to the system. I have a feeling your not authorized and just trying to program your radio without anyone's approval since your hesitant to have the radio shop do it. If you want to brick your radio, by all means try to program it and when it's discovered and causing issues with the system then too bad. Members here are trying to be helpful but you are over your head on this and there is only so much we can explain.

 

[K2SL]

jwilson thank you very much, I am authorized and have a valid system key. As far as the radio shop there is not one close to my area. Thank you for your advise and comments.