EMS medcom (telemetry/medical control) frequencies in Philly area and Bucks County

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Anyone have the frequencies used for EMS communications with the hospital/telemetry in Bucks County and Philly areas? Not strictly looking for 911 ambulances, but even for private ambulances doing transports in those areas.
 

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Anyone have the frequencies used for EMS communications with the hospital/telemetry in Bucks County and Philly areas? Not strictly looking for 911 ambulances, but even for private ambulances doing transports in those areas.
There are ten med channels , your county control may favor or patch certain channels more than others ,i dont get you guys here ,so the my local county favorites will be different , like here Med 1 is both dispatch from county to ambu dispatcher who then radios the actual ambu ,and they also use it for calling in report to hospital ,based on what county tells them .
Honestly it's horrific what passes for communication around here . Your private ambu companies may have there own seperate frequencies allocations for operations but will use the same Med channels as 911 does.

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In Philadelphia city medic units use a talk group on the 800mhz channel called the haste channel. It is encrypted they also still have the old vhf low system as a back up. That system is 45.54 i believe and no encrypting. They test the haste system every Tuesday or Wednesday between 8am and 9am. I know in Delaware county they use cell phones for hospital notification mainly.
 

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How much telemetry is still used in that area? It disappeared around here in the late 80's/early 90's. When I was first certified on CMED (1997) we had the ability to print strips, but that was not carried over to our new dispatch center a year later.
 

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Yes all current EMS defib units have cellular gateway units that can transmit directly via internet or wifi/bluetooth that connects to a gateway on the vehicle that has cell service.

Nothing current uses audio telemetry like the days of Squad 51 sending lead 2.
 

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Gone are the days transmitting to Rampart ,along with the days of cleaning and preparing the unit to go back in service, well we formalize the facts and document the care performed of the Pre hospital care report . Everything in the bus talks to everything else ,when you go into a patients home or business you grab the the touch screen tablet or notebook and document on the go ,in the case of patient refusal click a few screens and Presto the patient signs a release and it's done .or if care was provided and patient is on board everything communicates again with the computer ,so all basic vitals like pulse Ox, heart rhythm,cardiversion, blood pressure,pulse etc is all updated and transmitted to both the patient record and the hospital as needed ,it takes longer to change the linen on the pram then the upload of PHCR. I am in comparatively po dunk town compared to you and our buses do it ,(I suppose it helps our ambulance is a primarily paid service that is a joint venture/financed by our two trauma centers ) instead of fighting and cannibalizing each other's patients(don't laugh they did that for years), if the patient can't specify there choice cardiac is specialized by one and brain CVA goes to the other BLS goes to the closest hospital if patient doesn't have preference.
You can still get the basics on the med channels when we call in ,be it GSW,trauma, overdose,cuts bruises sprains or strains ,but actual hard fast telemetry has gone cellular/fax .

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I live in Bucks County and listen to the P2 simulcast Bucks County system everyday.

Those frequency listings posted from the database are mostly very old frequency not used anymore except for a few of the direct frequencies for the fire department and that is part of the P2 simulcast 700 megahertz system. A couple of the VHF high frequencies are still used for pagers and again they rebroadcast the P2 simulcast system. A couple of the UHF frequencies from the past may also rebroadcast fire dispatch on the P2 simulcast system.

I haven't seen those old UHF Med channels used in a long time around here. There are 3 talk groups for ambulances in Bucks County that are dispatched by the county, not private ambulances, I guess they would have their own frequencies. I haven't seen any low band VHF in the 47 Meg's in a long time but I know all the private ambulance companies all use them 40 or 50 years ago. I'm thinking private ambulance companies use those big communication systems like sunshine.

In Bucks County you have EMS South, EMS North and Hospital where the ambulance talks to the emergency room nurse. They might give vital signs or description of what they have depending on the seriousness of it.

You EMS guys would know but I don't think they do Telemetry over the radio anymore at all, as you were saying I would think that be over the Internet or cell phone?
 

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In Philadelphia city medic units use a talk group on the 800mhz channel called the haste channel. It is encrypted they also still have the old vhf low system as a back up. That system is 45.54 i believe and no encrypting. They test the haste system every Tuesday or Wednesday between 8am and 9am. I know in Delaware county they use cell phones for hospital notification mainly.

Completely incorrect.
1- The low band HASTE channel (47.54) is no longer used for hospital notifications. If they did not fully remove it from service they will be soon.
2- Currently each hospital that PFD transports to has their own talkgroup on the Philadelphia P25 system, NOT encrypted. The medic unit gives reports to dispatch over the North or South Medic band and then the dispatcher announces the information over the respective hospital "HASTE" talkgroup.

Also, for Bucks County, the EMS units have a Hospital talkgroup on the Bucks County Phase 2 system. For private transports the County is required to monitor UHF MED 4 on their consoles.
 

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Thanks Dan, you know I never listen to the medics in Philly, only the police but I didn't think they were still using the VHF low-band.

That hospital talkgroup in Bucks is valuable to see the disposition of assault victims.

I didn't realize the county was still monitoring Med 4 but just for private ambulances, I remember it in the past but wow that's an old frequency. LOL.

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I believe they are required to monitor that channel as part of an agreement with the other counties in Southeast PA. Those MED channels are still the national standard, and many counties to our west use MED channels as part of their county channel plan.
 

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Yep I don't even monitor EMS unless there's some incident of a shooting, possible class 5 accident or violent crime. I want to hear what hospital they go to and what their disposition is.

Your reach is a lot bigger than mine as you know I only monitor Bucks, Burco, far Northeast and Trenton. Talk soon.
 

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I believe you, I'd like to see that equipment, low band VHF, pretty cool. I can't imagine what they would still use it for with the hospital's having their own talk groups and so forth but it probably makes sense to leave it in place. It is simplex and you never know.

I grew up in Abington and when I was monitoring in the mid-60s they were on 39.18 and it was a terrific system of course. Then they switched to UHF in the 460s before being on the present County system.

Last I heard they were using the UHF radios for ops and the 39.18 was being used by the Ranger's at alverthorpe Park.

You never know what they may repurpose those radios for, being low band simplex they will work in any conditions if the main communication systems broke down. Who knows what will happen with them. I imagine they keep the license current. Interesting.
 

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I work in Chester County. All notifications to the receiving hospitals are either done via cellphone or over one of the county TGs (i.e. Paoli Hosp ED has a base radio set only to their TG). Someone else posted this, too: EKGs are transmitted to the ED over a WiFi signal.
 

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Does anyone regularly monitor 47.54? Is anything ever heard on 47.54?
 
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