govermentcheese
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Will there ever be a work around to open up the scanner..
Encrypted will it ever be available.
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govermentcheese
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Will there ever be a work around to open up the scanner..
That would be illegal and defeat the purpose of encryption so no..
Just my opinion here. But legally, no way will the federal government changed the laws and allow it. But technically, and with AI nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if some smart technician or engineer figured out a way. It wasn't illegal to decrypt radio traffic prior to 1994 (and there wasn't much to decrypt anyway). But it is illegal to try and do it now. I wouldn't expect it anytime soon but I do think eventually someone will figure it out with the use and speed of AI. Again, just my opinion and I have nothing to base it on...
COMMSCAN
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As long as it’s illegal, you’ll never see a device available to the public which will defeat encryption. And with more than 3.4 quadrillion potential key combinations, decryption on the fly would be tough, even with AI.
In other words, don’t hold your breath.
Not a legal one, anyway.
Change Federal law....
Until then........
Why did you post this question twice?
Until then........
Why did you post this question twice?
mmckenna
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Breaking encryption is not going to happen with AES256, which is what most public safety uses, and what is required in many cases. The amount of time and computing power necessary to do that isn't available, and certainly not in hobbyists budget range. It can't be 'brute forced' with anything available today.
There is after market firmware for some Uniden radios that will allow you to enter keys and decode traffic. Unication pagers will handle it, if you have the keys. LMR radios, provisioned correctly, can have keys loaded.
But you won't get the keys. No agency is going to hand them out. You can't sneak them out of the radio. You can't guess them. Keys are not something that's printed out and you type it in. It's loaded with a keyloading device to keep them secure, and current scanners don't have the facilities to handle connecting to a keyloader.
And even if you did, a good agency would roll their keys periodically and you'd be SOL again.
The whole purpose of encryption is to keep those that do not have access from hearing traffic. Unless you work for the agency, you don't have access.
And then the legal issues, as mentioned above.
If you want to hear encrypted radio traffic, get hired on by the agency you want to listen to. Go through the academy, get your badge, and you'll get issued a radio that will work.
Other than that, SOL.
There is after market firmware for some Uniden radios that will allow you to enter keys and decode traffic. Unication pagers will handle it, if you have the keys. LMR radios, provisioned correctly, can have keys loaded.
But you won't get the keys. No agency is going to hand them out. You can't sneak them out of the radio. You can't guess them. Keys are not something that's printed out and you type it in. It's loaded with a keyloading device to keep them secure, and current scanners don't have the facilities to handle connecting to a keyloader.
And even if you did, a good agency would roll their keys periodically and you'd be SOL again.
The whole purpose of encryption is to keep those that do not have access from hearing traffic. Unless you work for the agency, you don't have access.
And then the legal issues, as mentioned above.
If you want to hear encrypted radio traffic, get hired on by the agency you want to listen to. Go through the academy, get your badge, and you'll get issued a radio that will work.
Other than that, SOL.
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We are still P25 Phase 2 Un-encrypted here. But I think the wheels are in motion to go AES encryption.
My plan is to make a police radio detector for my car and house so that I have awareness of police and federal activity in the area. I am planning a sort of Aperiodic receiver (See CryptoMuseum).
This will consist of the following "block diagram":
>>>>wideband VHF-UHF antenna>
bandpass filter windows at 167/420/700/800 MHz
>LNA 20 dB gain
>AD8313 LOG DETECTOR>
LM2914 LED VU METER CHIP>
Rotary switch (Sensitivity threshold)>
555 one shot timer>
SONALERT sounder.
In this way any transmissions in the RF bandpass windows will fire a SONALERT. The LED VU meter will indicate the intensity and the rotary switch will select (via LED activated) the threshold for the alarm. The active stages are all available on PCB's from Amazon.
www.cryptomuseum.com
My plan is to make a police radio detector for my car and house so that I have awareness of police and federal activity in the area. I am planning a sort of Aperiodic receiver (See CryptoMuseum).
This will consist of the following "block diagram":
>>>>wideband VHF-UHF antenna>
bandpass filter windows at 167/420/700/800 MHz
>LNA 20 dB gain
>AD8313 LOG DETECTOR>
LM2914 LED VU METER CHIP>
Rotary switch (Sensitivity threshold)>
555 one shot timer>
SONALERT sounder.
In this way any transmissions in the RF bandpass windows will fire a SONALERT. The LED VU meter will indicate the intensity and the rotary switch will select (via LED activated) the threshold for the alarm. The active stages are all available on PCB's from Amazon.
SSR-201
www.cryptomuseum.com
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Don't forget that some (most) keyloaders often need a physical connection, although there are some that do their keys over the air, but even then, there's no easy workaround.
It's just not worth it, any way you look at it.
It's just not worth it, any way you look at it.
kayn1n32008
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Nope. Scanner listeners ARE the reason encryption is employed.
So no, there won't be a work around for scanners to decrypt encrypted comms with out knowing the key.
Reconrider
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If you know the key already, you could use this cfw and program to program the key you have into the scanner. It's not free but it's cheap and it works very well. I have it on my sds100 for a system that I was given the key to
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