Failed my Technician Exam!

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http://forums.radioreference.com/amateur-radio-general-discussion/261349-i-bitten.html

After reading your previous thread above I think your priorities are way off.

You stated "After reading much information and watching many videos I had concluded that a MT was the best to start off with." I don't know what you were reading or watching but I think it may have confused you.

You purchased and installed equipment before even cracking a book. And did you honestly think you would do well on the test after only covering a third of the material.

I don't know of any testing, besides amateur radio, which provides you with the questions and answers prior to taking the test.

As previously stated above get the Gordon West book. He lists all the questions and answers "exactly" and goes into further detail to help you understand the material and not just the questions and answers.

Use the online practice tests to evaluate what you have learned and what you need to work on more. When you can pass the practice tests while only missing a few questions or less you should be ready. Good Luck.

No, I went in assuming I was going to do terribly on the exam. However, I had signed up on that day, which was the last day for some time. So, I went ahead and took the exam. For the record, I missed it by only one question! :) How bout them apples.

Now, if I am off track on the MT thing then enlighten me. I read and was advised time and time again two things regarding starting out with equipment. 1: Find a good HF rig used. And 2: There are lots of good new portable MT rigs available.

After some looking for a good used HF rig I determined that I was unable to assess their quality in any meaningful way. I found many on Ebay, QRZ forum etc; however, I had no idea what was going to be a quality lasting product despite reviews. So, I boiled it down to a new product. One that would cover as many bases or frequencies as possible and allow for expansion.

Honestly I like the idea of the HF rigs and possibly a MT but initially that would put me a bit over the wife's radar or the WAF. (Wife Acceptance Factor)

So, point me in the right direction. I find one nice used rig every day. Then I read on it and each seems to have it's own problems. I want something reliable of course.
 

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Well, your last statement might be hard to satisfy. That is why there are so many different auto makers out there. Or shoe stores. What type of shoe I like may not even fit your style. And don't think for one minute that you will find a radio or scanner that will meet your needs now or in the future. Not many have said to find an Elmer, but this would help. There was a suggestion to find a ham club. Or at least go to some coffee klatches to find what others in your area like. But as technology changes, more than likely your radios will also. And as your class of license increases so will your radios. Ham radio is all about experimenting with what will work for you and won't. Like everything electronic, some radios will be reliable, but the next batch might be junk. So reading, internet searches, listening to hams in your area, attending club meetings, hamfests, and finding an Elmer will help. You did not mention eHam.net, but this is a good source of information on reliability of radios. Again like GMC, Ford, Dodge there are some that really like a manufacturers product and others that can't stand it. Read the reviews, eliminate the junk reviews and go with what suites your needs. Radios are not permanent. If you don't like a particular radio, sell it and move on. It's not all black and white.
 

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...Honestly I like the idea of the HF rigs and possibly a MT...

It is good that you only missed by one question instead of missing by a lot more. That means you are a lot closer to success than might otherwise be true. It is still a good idea to study and practice until regularly getting 90%+ on practice tests, because you never know what questions will be on the real exam.

I know this is obvious to many (and possibly stated earlier), but just in case someone steered you in a wrong direction, please let me mention that Technicians can only listen to HF (meaning 10 meters and below). A General or Extra license will be needed for transmitting on HF.

As a Technician, for your first radio (on 6m and above), you might want to consider a basic unit on a band that is regularly used in your area (e.g. 2m and/or 440mHz, etc.) and get on the air as soon as you get your Tech license. This will help get you connected to other hams who can encourage and answer questions about local activities and how to advance to General and Extra, which is needed for HF.

If you have already acquired an HF rig, you certainly can use it to listen and learn, but don't underestimate the value of getting on the air soon on 2m or 440 and making some connections with local hams.

Hope this helps,

Keep going!

(P.S. I might be having a brain-cramp moment. What does the abbreviation MT stand for? Thanks,)
 
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It is good that you only missed by one question instead of missing by a lot more. That means you are a lot closer to success than might otherwise be true. It is still a good idea to study and practice until regularly getting 90%+ on practice tests, because you never know what questions will be on the real exam.

I know this is obvious to many (and possibly stated earlier), but just in case someone steered you in a wrong direction, please let me mention that Technicians can only listen to HF (meaning 10 meters and below). A General or Extra license will be needed for transmitting on HF.

As a Technician, for your first radio (on 6m and above), you might want to consider a basic unit on a band that is regularly used in your area (e.g. 2m and/or 440mHz, etc.) and get on the air as soon as you get your Tech license. This will help get you connected to other hams who can encourage and answer questions about local activities and how to advance to General and Extra, which is needed for HF.

If you have already acquired an HF rig, you certainly can use it to listen and learn, but don't underestimate the value of getting on the air soon on 2m or 440 and making some connections with local hams.

Hope this helps,

Keep going!

(P.S. I might be having a brain-cramp moment. What does the abbreviation MT stand for? Thanks,)

Mobile Transceiver. I think I like the Yaesu 857D. Whereas HT would be Handheld Transceiver. Also, very good info. I only have the old Radio shack 10 meter and can't hear anything on it as of yet. Well, once I did actually. I just don't have a good antenna for it yet. Used the modified CB thing I had and it sucks. Looking to get something soon and install a few antennas. I really like to listen. I already listen to the nets locally.
 
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I haven't seen it mentioned in YEARS, but I used the Now You're Talking book from Radio Shack to study for my license 20 years ago. There were no question/answer pools; just the information. I read and understood the info. The day I went to take my test, there were a bunch of people standing around reading each other the test questions. It seemed to me as though they were cheating. They were only cheating themselves.

I learned the material and passed with flying colors. About half of the parking-lot-test-question-study group failed.

Do yourself a favor and learn the material. It will only do you good to understand the how and why to radio. I see more and more licensed amateurs asking questions about how to do certain things in ham radio that they should know. For instance, antenna equations are covered in the study material and the exam, but I see them asking how to build them all the time.
 

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One of the best ways for a beginner ham to find equipment is to attend local amateur radio club meetings and start making contacts. Most hams thoroughly enjoy helping out beginners and will gladly make good deals on equipment they've upgraded to help beginners get on the air. That way you can also place a name with a face and easily seek their help if needed. OKC has a very active ham community. Should not be hard at all getting started.

I would avoid hamfests in making initial equipment purchases. You can certainly get good deals at them, but I have ran into many hamfest sellers who have been... shall we say... quite a bit less than honest. You don't want to run into that situation just starting out.

I would not "dive" heavily into HF until you get some experience on 2m / 440. Buy a fairly high quality HT or MT and don't be afraid to spend a few bucks to get something you'll be proud of and will perform. Attend one of the local meetings and see what other hams are using and find out what they recommend. You'll lose interest quickly if you only buy old and cheap gear.

Every radio has its supporters and enemies... even the best and most respected of all time. If you pass on radios because someone made a negative comment... then you'll give up and never buy one. Consider both good and bad comments and balance them out.

Don't rely on your Radio Shack 10m mobile rig to really represent what HF is all about. 10m suffers from poor propagation most of the time. It's only going to get worse as the recent sunspot cycle winds down which it's in the process of doing and won't come back around for 5 or 6 years. There's a whole other world to HF than just 10m and it can certainly be fun as well as highly addictive... in terms of both enjoyment and your pocketbook.

If you want to get a good idea of the HF bands overall... I believe Radio Shack is closing out the Grunding G3 portable shortwave receiver for $60... regular $130. Great receiver that will do both sideband and sync detection.

Enjoy and welcome!
 
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I haven't seen it mentioned in YEARS, but I used the Now You're Talking book from Radio Shack to study for my license 20 years ago. There were no question/answer pools; just the information.
The ARRL no longer publishes Now You're Talking which may be why you don't see it mentioned much anymore. The ARRL Technician class study book is now called Ham Radio License Manual:

ARRL :: Licensing, Education & Training :: Ham Radio License Manual Revised 2nd Edition

When I used Now You're Talking 22 years ago, it did contain the question pool, but the emphasis was on studying the material and not the questions/answers. The current book is built on the same premise.
 

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The ARRL no longer publishes Now You're Talking which may be why you don't see it mentioned much anymore. The ARRL Technician class study book is now called Ham Radio License Manual:

ARRL :: Licensing, Education & Training :: Ham Radio License Manual Revised 2nd Edition

When I used Now You're Talking 22 years ago, it did contain the question pool, but the emphasis was on studying the material and not the questions/answers. The current book is built on the same premise.
Many, many years ago (like 32), a guy named Dick Bash (KL7IHP) broke the barrier of ham radio exams. The FCC was very "proactive" in preparing and releasing exams and there was no such thing as VE examinations. In order to upgrade, you had to haul your behind to one of the FCC field offices where usually a very friendly front desk person would hand you your test, and the little desks and hard government chairs in the back were patrolled by a very stern FCC person who paced up and down the aisles and looked down at your notes and answer sheets. What Bash did was urge people to collect the questions and possible answers. To do that, people had to write things they remembered down as soon as they left the room. He, then, put them into the "Bash book," which was the question and the researched answer with nothing more. The promise was that if you read the book cover-to-cover 10 times (at the time, guys would put hash marks on the back), and had all the stuff fresh in your mind, the average guy could march into the field office and ace the test - whether they understood it or not.

The FCC would be in a fury over this and changed the tests frequently, the the government could not copyright its own material and there wasn't much more they could do. Bash kept up. Not only that, but he started to include little formula shortcuts and calculator tips on doing the polar to rectangular coordinates and j operators for the Extra. The pejorative at the time was being a "Bash Book extra." (You still had to pass the code and the test anyway.) Hey, what do they call the doctor who graduated at the bottom of his class? "Doctor."

People were doing that for FAA FARs and for the commercial radio licenses (Warren Weagant books), anyway.

So there was the shift from learning the materials to teaching to the test so simply being able to pass the test (kinda like we do to kids in school today). The ARRL continued to provide learning and understanding materials, though. Then Gordon West and the other VECs came into play later on in the mid-80s.

I bought an ARRL "Now You're Talking" book and cassette tape at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia in 1976. It was pretty cool and written to a younger person's perspective. Great. I also had one of the Radio Shack books. But I'm fundamentally a big dummy, so I needed an in-person class to kick start me. My elmer had a ham radio storefront that sold used and reconditioned boat anchors. A magic place filled with Heathkits, Drakes, and Gonkulators. We sat in there, did the CW test from someone with a straight key (which was "The quick brown fox..." backwards, as it turned out), and took the novice written and put them into envelopes to the FCC. Eventually, in 1978, I became who I am today. I carpooled with a bunch of guys to a local high school the next year to take night courses to study for my general. I was already very active on CW in the Novice sub-bands and had my code speed up. Pearl Harbor Day, 1979, I took a bus into NYC, then a subway downtown and tested out for my general at Varrick St. in NYC. Then a year later, I did the same for my advanced and a week later, my extra.

So, that's how studying used to be. There are guys (our WWII era generation) who go back even further than that who may have had to draw circuit diagrams. Keep studying. We need your fresh blood in the hobby if we are ever going to justify the frequencies we've been given. There's no shortage of profiteers who want to take them away for pay-to-play broadband.
 

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This very unfortunate. After studying the ARRL handbook. I spent about 5 days using hamexam.org and passed both tech and the General exams. I do not know anything about the site you used, but you should study the ARRL handbook before you take any practice exams. otherwise all your doing is memorizing only the pool of answers to the exams. you may pass the exams, but not truly knowing what your doing will come back to haunt you. Please take this more seriously and Best of Luck!
 

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You are not alone. dont give up WB4CS gave the best advice. I'm studying the Gordon West general test book so I can move up to HF right now. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!
 

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Yeah, don't give up... I bought the ARRL Tech book from Amazon for around $23 or so and read through it for a couple of weeks. Then I printed out Dan Romanchik's Tech exam guide, located here in PDF form: No-Nonsense Study Guides - KB6NU's Ham Radio Blog . After getting a good background with the ARRL Tech book, I tried to saturate my mind with Dan's exam questions and answers. That helped me get through this past Saturday.

I read through the General questions on Friday for about an hour, I guess. I got 24 questions right even though I skimmed so fast on his exam guide for the General. I almost passed with almost no studying time because I was able to remember his info! So I plan to go get my General next month.

I sure wish you the best!
 

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thanks for the info! for my extra class i had at least 300 question pool, maybe more. since i din't know wich questions were in the test i study for all those questions i gave myself 3 months 2 to 3 hours a day reading and we had cw to deal with but i love cw that came natural for me by the time they gave me the 20 wpm test i was least 35 wpm fail my novice 1x and fail my general 1x.
 
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