Faulkner CO Updated

[INDY72]

I think I got everything updated properly for FC, that county needed some major loving care in the db as its been so long since it was last given some TLC. I would appreciate confirmation on the usage of MotoTRBO for the rescue squad, and on the other repeater for county fire ops. Also any confirmations and corections on the Conway/FC TRS updates...

TY in advance

 

[INDY72]

Those with scanners, especially newer scanners that can do wildcards... Pay closer attention to the Conway/FC TRS... And please submit the new TG's that are floating around and lets get them in the db before the big switchover to the AWIN...... That will give us a good idea of just how many tg's to expect on the AWIN when it happens.

 

[weather4ar]

Faulkner County?

Where did you get the information about the Motorbo on the Faulkner County Emergency Squad? I haven't heard any motorbo voice on any of the county repeaters, that includes County Fire and Emergency Squad. The only agency I know of that is using Motorbo is the Vilonia Police. Also, as far as the Conway Fire Department goes, they are digital, but there is no digital encryption for Conway FD on the Trunking System. I do not have, or know of, any new talkgroups. Also, the label "No Longer Used" on the CFD's 154.250 repeater is incorrect. It is primarily used for data sent to the terminals on the fire engines, rescue trucks, and other apparatus. Data is heard on that channel, not voice. The label "No Longer Used" on the county 154.280 fire repeater is also suspect. It is still listed as active and is probably used as a tactical talk around frequency.

I also don't know where your information came from on MEMS on the Conway Trunk, but dispatch and ambulance to hospital are still in the clear on the Conway Trunk System. MEMS is involved in the Trauma Coms system on AWIN, but they are also quite active on the Conway Trunk. Also, the 155.325 Conway EMS is listed with the FCC as active. It probably is used as a backup for when the trunk system is down. Where did you get the information about Conway totally switching to AWIN? Most agencies maintain their own systems and use AWIN as a backup.

I think I got everything updated properly for FC, that county needed some major loving care in the db as its been so long since it was last given some TLC. I would appreciate confirmation on the usage of MotoTRBO for the rescue squad, and on the other repeater for county fire ops. Also any confirmations and corections on the Conway/FC TRS updates...

TY in advance

 

[INDY72]

The newest FCC emissions designator lists the rescue squad as MotoTRBO capable. Over the past several years, when an agency in Arkansas gets that designation, very shortly they begin using TRBO. Also from sources that must remain anonymous, Greenbriar FD will be using MotoTRBO with full time encryption within a month. Approval for TRBO is pending from FCC. The info about the TRS switching over to an AWIN system addition has been out for a while. FC/Conway, LR, and others are converting their TRS's to AWIN sites. The .2800 freq is currently not used. The EMS listing is for the conventional listings for City of Conway. They do not use them, they run on AWIN and FC/C TRS's. I did not put CFD as encrypted, just digital. CPD is encrypted.

 

[weather4ar]

Well, as someone who actually monitors these on a day to day basis, I have yet to hear any TRBO on the Emergency Squad, even if it is capable. If Greenbrier does in fact start using encryption, I'll let you know when I hear it on the air. I'm always somewhat skeptical on things like that because LR, Jacksonville have been talking about doing mirror sites on AWIN, but traffic continues on their original systems with little change,

 

[dave90000]

I can tell you for a fact greenbrier FD is going mototrbo encrypted as I am doing the programming for them. And the other info MILF posted is also correct. There are a lot of frequencies listed as active with the FCC around here that are no longer in use.

 

[INDY72]

As for the AWIN switchover, the official press releases have been published over the last three months or so, and Russelville was the first to jump online. LR is beginning equipment/infrastructure work. With LR thats six repeaters, thousands of mobiles and HT's, and a lot of consoles to be replaced. J'ville is a tad smaller a pepper to pick. Faulkner County's also a big job. Eventually the entire county will be AWIN, but thats a long way away. The CPD, CFD, FCSO, OEM, will be fully on pretty fast once infrastructure is in place.

As for unlisted TG's on the FC TRS... Dave could probably back me up in saying there are at least 4.

 

[dave90000]

Actually I can count 8 TG on conways system that are not listed.

 

[weather4ar]

That makes sense. I have AWIN and the current systems in so it shouldn't be too bad. Greenbrier will be a different story.

 

[03msc]

I can tell you for a fact greenbrier FD is going mototrbo encrypted as I am doing the programming for them. And the other info MILF posted is also correct. There are a lot of frequencies listed as active with the FCC around here that are no longer in use.

This full encryption crap is totally ridiculous! Just my .02...

 

[weather4ar]

Actually, in Greenbrier's case, PD encryption for traffic violations and tactical investigations is quite understandable. But, for Dave, curiously, how many fire scanners actually chase GBFD's rescue and fire calls often enough to warrant total encryption? Do the Log Cabin Democrat, or other news reporters that might cover an occasional fire or traffic accident from off scene constitute a hazard? I don't chase fire calls so I'm asking hypothetically.

 

[03msc]

Actually, in Greenbrier's case, PD encryption for traffic violations and tactical investigations is quite understandable. But, for Dave, curiously, how many fire scanners actually chase GBFD's rescue and fire calls often enough to warrant encryption? Do the Log Cabin Democrat, or other reporters that might cover an occasional fire or traffic accident from off scene constitute a hazard? I don't chase fire calls so I'm asking hypothetically.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that a PD or Sheriff's Dept should have one or two channels encrypted for certain traffic but not general dispatch and general traffic. I think it should be open. Keep a couple tac channels for specials ops or undercover stuff - or extended talk about details of a call - and keep the rest on open channels.

 

[weather4ar]

Don't get me wrong, I agree that a PD or Sheriff's Dept should have one or two channels encrypted for certain traffic but not general dispatch and general traffic. I think it should be open. Keep a couple tac channels for specials ops or undercover stuff - or extended talk about details of a call - and keep the rest on open channels.

Mark, you're right. That's what I'm trying to understand about the GBFD's reasoning.

 

[03msc]

Mark, you're right. That's what I'm trying to understand about the GBFD's reasoning.

Yeah. I think it goes without saying that I don't think it's necessary. haha

I'm beginning to think some salesmen are being pretty slick when selling these systems...

 

[dave90000]

There has been enough scanner chasers to cause issues. Also there has been a lot of incorrect info getting into the media from various persons listening to a call thats still evolving and changing that the incorrect info has caused some major problems. Most of the calls I will agree encryption is not necessary but a lot of the times you dont know this until its too late.

 

[weather4ar]

I know GBFD is a Volunteer Department, but it's too bad your department doesn't have a Public Information Officer who could get the correct information directly to the press and fend off the problems by granting interviews. Then the PD could concentrate on the chasers that cause the most problems. A trespassing ticket or arrest might just change a few of their minds.

 

[dave90000]

The problem is not so much the people on scene. We can handle them without much issue. The problems we are having is the folks listening and then hitting the socal media with partial or incorrect info. Also one of our local news outlets will take the incomplete/incorrect info from either the scanner or the socal media and publish it without bothering to check the info out. Which is then picked up by their partner in little rock and they publish it without checking it out. And Damon you probably know exactly who I am refering to.

Several months ago this exact deal caused a citywide panic and caused a lot of issues.

Also our Fire Chief is our public info officer and will gladly give a press release when contacted.

Damon check your PM

 

[weather4ar]

Exactly. Thanks for the PM's and the context,

The problem is not so much the people on scene. We can handle them without much issue. The problems we are having is the folks listening and then hitting the socal media with partial or incorrect info. Also one of our local news outlets will take the incomplete/incorrect info from either the scanner or the socal media and publish it without bothering to check the info out. Which is then picked up by their partner in little rock and they publish it without checking it out. And Damon you probably know exactly who I am refering to.

Several months ago this exact deal caused a citywide panic and caused a lot of issues.

Also our Fire Chief is our public info officer and will gladly give a press release when contacted.

Damon check your PM

 

[dave90000]

your welcome

 

[INDY72]

You would think the media geniuses in Little Rock would know to check out story leads for accuracy. I can understand small town papers being dumb and just running with a "Hot Call" off the scanner, but larger agencies should be a lot more careful. Then again, newspapers are back to being outhouse material. At least with most radio and television stations, they will send a crew to the scene, or call the PIO's for accurate info. They may pop the story in the beginning phases with the "Breaking News" , but then let you know they are either "sending a crew to the scene" or "investigating further".

And again TY for your assistance, and guys watch that system closer, out of the 8 TG's or more up in the air, at least 3 should be in use pretty regularly.