FDNY station data anomalies

[DaveNF2G]

I have been plotting FDNY stations on Google Earth based on the data from NYCOpenData and have found some issues.

Some stations appear (from Street View) to be closed or inaccessible.
Bronx - Engine 82
Brooklyn - Engines 224 and 253
Manhattan - Engines 13, 35, 53 (35 and 53 are addressed around the corner from each other, but the entire area is closed off)

Also in Brooklyn, the city data indicates that Ladder 102 is alone, but the station is marked for an Engine and a Battalion Chief (can't make out the numbers on the picture).

Still working my way through Manhattan.

 

[ff026]

Engine 82/ ladder 31 is still at 1213 Intervale Avenue. It’s not closed there is a scaffold in front and a dumpster/ container.

 

[kf4lhp]

I have been plotting FDNY stations on Google Earth based on the data from NYCOpenData and have found some issues.

Some stations appear (from Street View) to be closed or inaccessible.
Bronx - Engine 82
Brooklyn - Engines 224 and 253
Manhattan - Engines 13, 35, 53 (35 and 53 are addressed around the corner from each other, but the entire area is closed off)

Also in Brooklyn, the city data indicates that Ladder 102 is alone, but the station is marked for an Engine and a Battalion Chief (can't make out the numbers on the picture).

Still working my way through Manhattan.

Looks like Engine 209 and Battalion 34 are the others on the sign at Ladder 102.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Thanks for the help so far. I've finished Manhattan and Queens and found some more questions.

Engine 307 house is also marked for Division 15, but D15 is not in the city data.
Is Engine 261 with Ladder 116 or closed?

Here is the strangest one. The address listed for Engine 329 is a vacant lot.

 

[dave3825]

Here is the strangest one. The address listed for Engine 329 is a vacant lot.

Where are you getting that from?

 

[ecps92]

I have been plotting FDNY stations on Google Earth based on the data from NYCOpenData and have found some issues.

Some stations appear (from Street View) to be closed or inaccessible.
Bronx - Engine 82
Brooklyn - Engines 224 and 253
Manhattan - Engines 13, 35, 53 (35 and 53 are addressed around the corner from each other, but the entire area is closed off)

Also in Brooklyn, the city data indicates that Ladder 102 is alone, but the station is marked for an Engine and a Battalion Chief (can't make out the numbers on the picture).

Still working my way through Manhattan.

too bad the link below

FireStations

Known fire stations in New York State. Fire station improvements are in progress

data.gis.ny.gov

doesn't export to KML or KMZ - but it does export to CSV and excel if that helps
this site below

ArcGIS Hub

Discover, analyze and download data from ArcGIS Hub. Download in CSV, KML, Zip, GeoJSON, GeoTIFF or PNG. Find API links for GeoServices, WMS, and WFS. Analyze with charts and thematic maps. Take the next step and create StoryMaps and Web Maps.

hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com

does export to kml

 

[mikeybus44]

224 and 253 were recently renovated and the companies were relocated during that time so if it's a recent Google pic it may show as being closed........224 went to 279 and 253 went to 245 in the interim
35 is at 124 st and 3rd Av....... 53 is at 102 St and 3rd Av
82 always same place on Intervale
E13 disbanded 50 years ago
L102 alone for many years...... E209 disbanded 2002..... BC34 disbanded 1989
E307 had DC14 for many years till their were moved to E324 many years ago
E261 disbanded 2002.... L116 remains on 29th Street

 

[DaveNF2G]

Where are you getting that from?

NYCOpenData for the address. Google Earth Pro Street View for the picture of the vacant lot.

 

[DaveNF2G]

224 and 253 were recently renovated and the companies were relocated during that time so if it's a recent Google pic it may show as being closed........224 went to 279 and 253 went to 245 in the interim
35 is at 124 st and 3rd Av....... 53 is at 102 St and 3rd Av
82 always same place on Intervale
E13 disbanded 50 years ago
L102 alone for many years...... E209 disbanded 2002..... BC34 disbanded 1989
E307 had DC14 for many years till their were moved to E324 many years ago
E261 disbanded 2002.... L116 remains on 29th Street

Thanks for the updates. I will go back into Google Earth and edit later.

 

[dave3825]

Google Earth Pro Street View for the picture of the vacant lot.

You might want to check that again.

 

[DaveNF2G]

The Google Earth aerial view, dated 06/16/2022, shows the fire station.

Street View, dated 05/2023, shows a vacant lot with a chain link fence and construction trailers.

I'm guessing Google's dates are mixed up.

 

[DaveNF2G]

BTW, apparently somebody at Google thinks it's cute to blur out details on random fire stations and apparatus - unit numbers, banners, American flags, etc.

 

[dave3825]

Apparently you’re not up and up on Google. They started blurring certain identifiable stuff a while ago.

Google maps and google earth pro both displayed fire house. I did not see an empty lot at that address in either.

Bing also shows the firehouse

 

[DaveNF2G]

There is a user-provided photo that comes up when I go to street view by some guy on a bike. However, I think his actual location is at the Loop and not the address he submitted. I reported it to Google.

The blurring is supposed to be applied per the request of the blurree. I don't think FDNY requested that flags be blurred.

 

[jeepsandradios]

So much for radios....

 

[dave3825]

The blurring is supposed to be applied per the request of the blurree. I don't think FDNY requested that flags be blurred.

Where are you seeing flags being blurred?







Yes, user can request blurring but Google uses an algorithm to auto blur faces and license plates. In this pic, its mistaking the headlights and "FD" as license plates.

There is a user-provided photo that comes up when I go to street view by some guy on a bike. However, I think his actual location is at the Loop and not the address he submitted. I reported it to Google.

Thats Alex. Looks like he submitted the Engine Company name and the street. There is not much on that street.



Pedal Alex down the road and you see the firehouse is there as of 5 months ago.

 

[DaveNF2G]

There are flags and rwb banners blurred on random fire houses and apparatus. I did not make a list.

 

[dave3825]

I guess until you post the fire house with blurred flags, then no one can provide an answer.