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Forest Service Updates
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If you know what's outdated, inaccurate or no longer used, and make those submissions, that's all one can ask for. Some db admins can not verify use on their own, so a sub should get some of that cleared out.
I will make corrections to existing information when I know it. However, the database editors know more than I do. The new information should make it somewhat obvious what needs deletion, but again, the DB editors know more than I do.
I think I can explain a little bit of why there are disagreements in this thread and others. There are a lot of Radio Reference members and any attempt to assign them into groups is difficult, if not impossible. With this in mind, I observe that there are two nodes of people, with a lot of blurring in between however. Those two nodes are techies and non techies. I'm in the latter group. Techies can darn near do and understand anything on this website. They find what they do as simple "come on, it's easy to figure out." The non techies say, "there is quite a bit on this site that isn't easy to figure out."
That is my response to the Wiki. I spend more time spinning my wheels there than I do with any computer process I deal with.
I think the techie group needs to have more empathy for the non techies. They need to go slow and explain how to do things, click by click. Don't assume any level of skill with computer processes.
I should also note that there are a lot of people on this site that don't write well. Sometimes, you can't even begin to understand them. Some of these are in the techie group, the techies, shock! I'm not saying that I am God's gift to writers, but I try to do the best I can, just like anyone else.
So techies, defend the Wiki as you do, while many of us have one thought in mind when the word "Wiki" is mentioned and that is "UGH."
That is my response to the Wiki. I spend more time spinning my wheels there than I do with any computer process I deal with.
I think the techie group needs to have more empathy for the non techies. They need to go slow and explain how to do things, click by click. Don't assume any level of skill with computer processes.
I should also note that there are a lot of people on this site that don't write well. Sometimes, you can't even begin to understand them. Some of these are in the techie group, the techies, shock! I'm not saying that I am God's gift to writers, but I try to do the best I can, just like anyone else.
So techies, defend the Wiki as you do, while many of us have one thought in mind when the word "Wiki" is mentioned and that is "UGH."
Every National Forest has both National Flight Following and National Air Guard on it. I only list these when a location is given. So if it isn't on the list then know that it exists, but the Forest chooses not to list a location..
nd5y
Member
In the past couple years somebody installed Natl Flight Following (168.6500 PL 110.9) base stations in several locations around the state. Probably networked and voted/steered. Communication are always with Texas A&M Forest Service "College Station Dispatch" Do you have any information about that?
You need to not take any of that personal. I've been told I'm a "Jew", a Nazi, a member of the "deep state", I should have never been born, I'm a loser, they wish I was never born, I made up all my wife's health issues, I made up even having a wife, they wish I was dead, they want to meet me in person to "discuss" things, I must be a Republican, I must be a Democrat and numerous other things yet I'm still here. I don't get paid to be a moderator (I may get a bonus, but that isn't guaranteed) and I don't even get a free premium subscription, so I'm not here for the money, I'm here for the fun...obviously.
Oops, Kevin you forgot to mention that you been called a nice helpful guy 😁
I don't have any information on the location of remote bases for National Flight Following or National Air Guard. I wish I did. Often a National Forest or Interagency Comm. Center will have more than one remote base and I have always assumed that these had to be voted, otherwise it would be repeater wars, if you know what I mean.
You need to not take any of that personal. I've been told I'm a "Jew", a Nazi, a member of the "deep state", I should have never been born, I'm a loser, they wish I was never born, I made up all my wife's health issues, I made up even having a wife, they wish I was dead, they want to meet me in person to "discuss" things, I must be a Republican, I must be a Democrat and numerous other things yet I'm still here. I don't get paid to be a moderator (I may get a bonus, but that isn't guaranteed) and I don't even get a free premium subscription, so I'm not here for the money, I'm here for the fun...obviously.
As it turns out the negative comments caused me to go forward and create threads for each state in the federal forum. I blew a whole afternoon and evening on this. My wife is mad at me for not going outside and getting a few things done, however.
ecps92
Member
Have you checked out
Radio Aviation Site
For field use only. This service contains a snapshot of the data updated annually. A national communications feature service.
usfs.hub.arcgis.com
Have you checked out
Radio Aviation Site
For field use only. This service contains a snapshot of the data updated annually. A national communications feature service.usfs.hub.arcgis.com
Thanks! This one went to bookmark immediately. I can envision some long hours pouring over that site!
For those of you keeping track of every little U.S. Forest Service jurisdiction in the Southern Region (R8) here is something that is not well known. The National Grasslands of western Oklahoma and the panhandle of Texas, the Rita Blanca, Black Kettle and the McClennan National Grasslands, although located in R8, are actually administered by the Cibola National Forest in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The Cibola NF's Supervisors Office is actually much closer to these units than the National Forests and Grasslands in Texas Supervisors Office in Lufkin, Texas. For communications information look up the Cibola NF in the New Mexico listings.
I must have missed that one.
I completed an edit to the Arkansas/Oklahoma page. I had left out the second National Forest in these states, The Ozark-St. Francis National Forest. This edit does not involve the frequency list, just the description of the Forests above the list.
I posted the content of my database submissions for 4 other states. That only leaves Alabama that has not been posted. Due to context considerations I'm going to have to write a new post for that state. It will be a few days until I can get to that. When that one is done, then all the states in the Southern Region will be complete.
At some point in the future I will take on the Eastern Region (R9) of the Forest Service. I will post the information in a state by state basis, just like I did here for the Southern Region.
EDIT: by the way, the Alabama database for National Forests is very well done. I think most of the data posted is in agreement with my information.
At some point in the future I will take on the Eastern Region (R9) of the Forest Service. I will post the information in a state by state basis, just like I did here for the Southern Region.
EDIT: by the way, the Alabama database for National Forests is very well done. I think most of the data posted is in agreement with my information.
Very well done !
Nice work sir! I'd be interested in New York State and Massachusetts.
Massachusetts doesn't have a National Forest, so don't expect a listing for it. New York has the very small Finger Lakes National Forest, small at about 16,000 acres or so. It is administered by the Green Mountain National Forest in Vermont. I don't have the data directly in front of me so I don't know if the Finger Lakes is going to show up.
In the Eastern GACC (Region 9 of USFS) information about the location of the National Flight Following and National Air Guard remote bases has been provided in the form of a lat/long. I've been looking those up and providing the locations.
Also, one thing should be noted. A lot of National Forests only show direct,, not repeater, information. That doesn't mean the NF uses simplex all the time. They could very well have numerous repeaters. However, the information I have is for aircraft air to ground and they often do not use repeaters in that case, so that is the only information provided. Some of the National Forests in the east are very small and flat and it could be that they only use simplex or direct. There are also larger, more mountainous NF's like the Superior, White Mtn. and Green Mtn. National Forests where repeaters are likely in use, but the information I have does not list any or just 1-3 repeaters.
At this point I'm done for the day. Lot's of work got done. I will have to pick this up another day. I have only 4 states to go.
