Freezing Rain in OKC Bad Roads!

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I have been listening to OKC APCO P25 PII TDMA. Embark bus drivers have non stop been reporting to dispatch bridges freezing over and accidents across the north half of Oklahoma County. Be careful if you need to go out!
 

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Lets just say that EMSA's response times to calls have been even worse today than the recent news articles. Calls holding 2+ hours with no ambulance. Unacceptable. OHP holding 51 calls in Troop A earlier, unk where they are at now.
OHP, OKC FD and EMSA have all had at least one vehicle damaged thus far too.
 

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NWS in Norman forecast says it's not going to get above freezing for a week.
 

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Good luck to those that live in OKC this weekend and next week. If models are correct your 911 calls could go unanswered for many many hours esp if you call for toe pain like so many do. Thankfully I no longer work in OKC. God speed.
 

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Lets just say that EMSA's response times to calls have been even worse today than the recent news articles. Calls holding 2+ hours with no ambulance. Unacceptable.


Who is the operations contractor for EMSA these days? It's one of the last remaining public utility model EMS systems and there is a contract between the trust and contractor. Assuming it hasn't been watered down to the point of irrelevance, that contract specifies response time maximums. OU's Jack Stout had all this figured out 40 years ago but it never caught on (OKC/Tulsa, KC, and Little Rock are the only Public Utility Model EMS systems I've ever heard of).

The rule in EMS these days seems to be show up whenever, claim a 90% survival rate, and move on.
 

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Sorry to hear about these problems everybody. We're getting hammered real good in Pennsylvania north of Philly and I know the Buffalo area I have a friend who says they also are getting hammered this winter.

Definitely hurting the virus vaccinations, people can't make the appointments. I'm scheduled for Sunday and we're expecting early morning ice storm and I have to travel into Center City Philadelphia. Our ambulances here for ALS calls are accompanied by a fire truck whenever possible. They help dig the house out so EMS can get in.
 

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Freezing rain and you get that black ice. Very dangerous, you don't know when your on it until its to late.
Plus the southern states don't have the snow removal equipment like we do up north.
Stay Safe
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Sorry to hear about these problems everybody. We're getting hammered real good in Pennsylvania north of Philly and I know the Buffalo area I have a friend who says they also are getting hammered this winter.

Definitely hurting the virus vaccinations, people can't make the appointments. I'm scheduled for Sunday and we're expecting early morning ice storm and I have to travel into Center City Philadelphia. Our ambulances here for ALS calls are accompanied by a fire truck whenever possible. They help dig the house out so EMS can get in.

Stay Safe trentbob
 

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Who is the operations contractor for EMSA these days? It's one of the last remaining public utility model EMS systems and there is a contract between the trust and contractor. Assuming it hasn't been watered down to the point of irrelevance, that contract specifies response time maximums. OU's Jack Stout had all this figured out 40 years ago but it never caught on (OKC/Tulsa, KC, and Little Rock are the only Public Utility Model EMS systems I've ever heard of).

The rule in EMS these days seems to be show up whenever, claim a 90% survival rate, and move on.

EMSA operates under its own entity now. No contractor. The city trust is still alive. Response times are no where close to being met either way. Staffing is the biggest issue due to many reasons. The news claims covid..not the case.
 

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EMSA operates under its own entity now. No contractor. The city trust is still alive. Response times are no where close to being met either way. Staffing is the biggest issue due to many reasons. The news claims covid..not the case.

OK, so no longer a public utility model EMS system at all. Well, it was a noble experiment even if no one seemed able to make it work.

Didn't realize that Stout just died last summer:


 

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I'm just thankful no freezing rain in the forecast for now. That will cause power outages and it's way to freezing to have that happen.
 

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Street maintenance on talk group 834 on WACN:92594 SYSTEM:00A[10] been busy with calling in snow routes 'complete' for each route. Seems like it's not all that bad so far. They've been on the job all day. I usually have 834 muted but not for now because of weather.
 

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Heard about the massive freeway pileup in TX due to icy conditions,be careful out there ! Can happen to anyone at any time, when its slick out, quadruple your usual stopping distance, if not more.
I've had a few hair raising black ice incidents, no warning, brakes and steering go kaput, you can only pray that your momentum will stop before you plow into something. Here in the metro Detroit area we have lucked out, some icy roads and some accumulation but it seems the bulk of every system so far either goes south or north of us - Even the snow doesn't like Detroit !
 

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How many troopers are assigned to the major turnpikes (ie Will Rogers, Turner)

it was my understanding it is one trooper per county
 

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EMSA is a freaking joke! I don't know how many times I have listened to just TFD in the last month and EMSA is either putting calls on hold or passing their calls off mutual to another EMS service in the area. I know the Covid calls are killing their response time but it's also being understaffed, overworked, and underpaid staff. I really hope when the 5 year contract expires that they really take TFD into consideration of running EMS in the Tulsa metro. TFD is usually first on scene and always waiting on EMSA no matter whether it's Priority 1 or not. I don't need some corporate bean counter to tell me otherwise. Listen to TFD for a few hours a week and the evidence is right there.
 

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EMSA is a freaking joke! I don't know how many times I have listened to just TFD in the last month and EMSA is either putting calls on hold or passing their calls off mutual to another EMS service in the area. I know the Covid calls are killing their response time but it's also being understaffed, overworked, and underpaid staff. I really hope when the 5 year contract expires that they really take TFD into consideration of running EMS in the Tulsa metro. TFD is usually first on scene and always waiting on EMSA no matter whether it's Priority 1 or not. I don't need some corporate bean counter to tell me otherwise. Listen to TFD for a few hours a week and the evidence is right there.

I am rarley in Tulsa so I dont listen to them but have wondered how they were doing compared to OKC. They still had tulsa medics coming to OKC for a while up until recently so I guess they still werent as bad as okc.
 
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