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More CCRs to be sent, free of charge (plus tariffs), to the YouToobers for them to "review" with their MFJ watt meters and nanoVNAs.

I wonder of the FCC will issue another warning about using personal radios to commit or facilitate criminal acts like they did after the January 6, 2021, incident. https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not-use-radios-crimes
Amazing that a reminder is needed that radios should not be used "to facilitate or commit" crimes. :D

Cheap radios are a double-edged sword: they provide a way for people to dip their toes into the hobby without spending a lot, but can also be purchased in mass quantities by bad actors looking to sow chaos.
 

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Buy? Why would rioters buy when they could (likely) steal/loot without consequences? :unsure:
I'm assuming sarcasm... But if not. This is my train of logic.

On one hand, robbers, will frequently steal guns to use in a robbery, but for a lock-picker / safe cracker I can't imagine them stealing lock-picks, they require practice and familiarity to use.

So I'm guessing it falls to whether something is easily available or not, and how "professional" the bad guy is, and how much practice is needed to use it.

It would be nice if wal-mart or target mentioned whether radios had become a high theft item in the area.

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Troothy sarcasm :D
I can follow the logic,

kind of like the broken windows policing theory in NYC... Why pay the fare for a subway ride when your going to mug someone in a few minutes. The police stopped the fair-jumping and ended up catching some of thier worst criminals. So why pay for radios when your going to do much worse stuff shortly.

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I'm seeing more and more protesters using "Rapid (LTE) Radios".
Private and up to 200 users on the same group.

I always chuckle a little when I see their somewhat misleading pitch. Part of their pitch is that in effect, "these will work when the cell service goes down", and "no monthly fees." But these units do rely on the data channels of the LTE 4G network which is just as susceptible to outages as the cell voice channels, and even moreso in my experience. You need to be in the service area of an LTE (cell) tower. And while there is no monthly fee, there is a yearly fee, because the SIM card in the unit requires re-upping once a year for $50 which averagaes to $4.17 a month, which isn't awful, but it's not free. The units do communicate using AES encryption, so I imagine that would be desirable for some people. They're pricey and they don't look very rugged. But I've never held one in my hanad. [Shrug]

I've done a lot of work with LTE data, and it can take several seconds to connect, and drop outs are common. The data channels are more of a fit for telemetry, and streaming services where data is buffered over time if necessary (and it is necessary a lot of the time) and not for realtime voice. You roll the dice if you want to use LTE data for realtime voice. Maybe good enough for protesters and rioters, but I wouldn't use these units in EMCOM or of any life-and-death situations.
 
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Another protest in Raleigh NC today and managed to get a photo of a masked man likely event security with a radio, not a very clear cellphone photo but... (looks like a spare in his pocket)

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10 of those Ansoko radios for $130 on Amazon. I’ve seen the key fob van salespeople in the Costco parking lot use them in SoCal.
 

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OK I'll bite. What are "key fob van salespeople"?
Guess I could have been clearer. There are orange vans that park in Costco parking lots and they also set up a stand inside the warehouse. The sell aftermarket replacement key fobs to unlock/start your car. Advertise as 40% or more lower than buying from a dealer.

The people manning the inside booth as well as those outside in the van “stockroom” use these radios.
 
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