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Full spectrum scan question.

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Ok I lied about one more thingI notice on your example you have it set to 6.25 instead of 12.5. Bandwidth, is that just for phase 2 or phase 1 or both ? I started trying to find out about this by watching really old videos and while it got me started on the right track I remember him saying 12.5
 

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Ok I lied about one more thingI notice on your example you have it set to 6.25 instead of 12.5. Bandwidth, is that just for phase 2 or phase 1 or both ? I started trying to find out about this by watching really old videos and while it got me started on the right track I remember him saying 12.5
Last answer for tonight, it depends on your system, are they using 6.25 or 12.5 steps? Once you figure that out you have your answer.
 

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Full spectrum scan is the easiest way to do this. Under System Detail enter 0 sites 0 Control enter the WACN and SYSID, enable site trunking and click on Enable Full Spectrum. Filling out the blocks like below, only using WACN BEE00 and SYSID 140. You will need to find the proper Hi/Lo frequencies and adjust frequency ranges as needed. It will scan all frequencies in the range until it finds a acceptable strength active frequency with that WACN/SYSID, sometimes (but not often) it will timeout on the scan and you must change the knob and change it back to resume scanning.

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I'm feeling kind of stupid, I was able to change Control Channel List to 0, but I can not find where to change Site List to 0.
 

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Not sure but maybe that isn't allowed in the G3, this post was talking about the G5 so maybe that is the difference. I have not worked with the G3. Or maybe it is because of something you entered on an earlier screen I just don't know, but as you see in post 2 it allows me to do it.
 

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Not sure but maybe that isn't allowed in the G3, this post was talking about the G5 so maybe that is the difference. I have not worked with the G3. Or maybe it is because of something you entered on an earlier screen I just don't know, but as you see in post 2 it allows me to do it.
I'll try programming it as is, and we'll see what happens
 

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I don't think it will matter if you have a site in there. I usually have to import one due to the way RR handles their downloads. (Well the way I do it anyway). It should still scan for new sites if you have the rest right I'd think. I'm not home but later tonight I'll try it.
 

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I don't think it will matter if you have a site in there. I usually have to import one due to the way RR handles their downloads. (Well the way I do it anyway). It should still scan for new sites if you have the rest right I'd think. I'm not home but later tonight I'll try it.
Sounds good, I got called away so I haven't given it a try yet.
 

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Yes E2, PPS 4.0.41
I don't think it will matter if you have a site in there. I usually have to import one due to the way RR handles their downloads. (Well the way I do it anyway). It should still scan for new sites if you have the rest right I'd think. I'm not home but later tonight I'll try it.

Just add the site as RFSS FF SITE FF, which is the wildcard, you have already defined the WACN/SYSID so it will look for just that info and take you to any site. Apparently the PPS has changed which now makes you put in a site.
 

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Just add the site as RFSS FF SITE FF, which is the wildcard, you have already defined the WACN/SYSID so it will look for just that info and take you to any site. Apparently the PPS has changed which now makes you put in a site.
No good, tells me Out Of Range and I'm well within range of at least one site.. It works perfect when not using full spectrum.
 

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No good, tells me Out Of Range and I'm well within range of at least one site.. It works perfect when not using full spectrum.
Like I said, it sometimes takes several tries to scan to the correct frequency, when it times out start over by changing the knob and changing it back
 

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Just add the site as RFSS FF SITE FF, which is the wildcard, you have already defined the WACN/SYSID so it will look for just that info and take you to any site. Apparently the PPS has changed which now makes you put in a site.
Add a second site or can you change the RFSS and SITE to FF on the one you had to download?
 

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No good, tells me Out Of Range and I'm well within range of at least one site.. It works perfect when not using full spectrum.
I just did a test site in mine using the FF and FF and it took about 90 seconds to acquire a site. Once acquired with only 65535 and trunking monitor mode, it performed as expected.
 

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Just add the site as RFSS FF SITE FF, which is the wildcard, you have already defined the WACN/SYSID so it will look for just that info and take you to any site. Apparently the PPS has changed which now makes you put in a site.
Yes I can confirm just changing the RFSS & SITE to FF does work as you described. I just replicated that here and within about 90 seconds it latched on to a site. I added only 65535 as a TG (i guess i need to do that still) and used trunking monitor. I need to make sure I Enabled site trunking. I don't remember if I did that or not.
 

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How do you set the site to 0 it won’t let me delete the site ? Everything else is good
I left the site it created in there and added the WACN and system ID then just used the FF's for the site ID and system ID. I got the out of range message first then just let it scan. About 90 seconds after switching it acquired a tower and started scanning.
 
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