Getting started in air band monitoring

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All, I have recently gained interest in monitoring air traffic, but I must say, I'm a bit lost. "Pilot talk" is like a different language epically if you're use to monitoring law enforcement & public services. I just picked up a stand alone air band scanner for the shack, & a Arrow 126 GP airband antenna. The antenna will be up 20 ft. or so in the air.

Any advice for a new guy starting out monitoring the air band?

I live in McAlester OK, DFW air traffic goes right over the house. Fort Worth Center is quite active here. Most of the traffic im hearing is Ft Worth, with an occasional Memphis, Tulsa & Kansas City thrown in. I have a page of RCAG site freq's printed off for the ZFW area, but they're hit & miss.

DFW Inbounds from the North are getting lined up for descent right over McAlester, so there is a lot of chatter.

Interesting, but very different from anything else I've ever monitored.
 

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Go get an area sectional chart or two from the office that sells stuff to pilots. Lots of useful info: frequencies, beacons, runway labels, vectors, high structures (mostly towers), flight vectors. I really like paper to kmaps instead of fumbling with a laptop. hs
 

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Go get an area sectional chart or two from the office that sells stuff to pilots. Lots of useful info: frequencies, beacons, runway labels, vectors, high structures (mostly towers), flight vectors. I really like paper to kmaps instead of fumbling with a laptop. hs
 

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Go get an area sectional chart or two from the office that sells stuff to pilots. Lots of useful info: frequencies, beacons, runway labels, vectors, high structures (mostly towers), flight vectors. I really like paper to kmaps instead of fumbling with a laptop. hs
 

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If you check with places that sell charts, they might give you a very substantial discount on old charts. The old charts cannot be used for navigation, so pilots have little interest in them.
 
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I retired from that area of the Ft. Worth ARTCC. Some things may have changed since then, but as of about 6 years ago, 132.2 is the low altitude (Ground to FL230) freq for that airspace, known as "McAlester Low". The freq has 2 transmitter sites, one at McAlester, and one at Okmulgee. 135.45 is the high altitude freq for "McAlester High". (FL240 and above) It is located in McAlester as well.
You may hear the controllers on 134.475 as well. That is the "DECOD" high altitude sector, (FL240 and above) which does a lot of sequencing for DFW area arrivals from the Northeast. DECOD has 2 transmitter sites, McAlester and Texarkana. The controller will flip between sites sometimes to better communicate with lower aircraft. The same holds true for the dual sites in McAlester Low.
The McAlester radio site is right off the McAlester airport, so your proximity to the airport will dictate how well you hear the controllers.
The two McAlester sectors are in the Northeast corner of Ft. Worth. In that corner you will hear a lot of comm transferes to Kansas City Center, Memphis Center, Oklahoma City Approach, Razorback Approach (Ft. Smith and Northwest Ark Regional), and Tulsa Approach.
 

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Awesome guys! Thanks for the help! Airband is a completely new experience for me. Been listening to them a lot the last couple of days & nights. It's very interesting.

profiledescent thanks for the run down. That helps me out. I'm just about a mile NE of the RCAG site. I can look out the window & see the tower beacon as a matter of fact, so they should be blowing me away. It almost sounds like the RCAG sites are setup the same way Union Pacific RR's radio system is, the controller can select what tower(or in this case a RCAG site) he/she wants to use according to which one provides the best communication.

I'm hearing a bunch of comm transfers also, mostly, "Such & such contact Memphis Center approach control on 124.0" . Very interesting, like I said it's a entirely new portion of the hobby for me.

The President of our club retired from the FAA out here at McAlester, maybe you know him? Jim Russell, WK5Y?
 

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Aircraft Monitoring

I also vote for getting Flightradar24. I am not an aircraft monitor myself, but every now and again I load up my Flightradar24 app on the mac (PC, android and IOS versions also available) and look to see who's flying overhead and try and match the callsign to the pilots. Its fascinating how far a plane can be from me and I still hear it clearly.
 

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Also helpful is a chart that shows each air traffic control center sector boundary. I've attached a sector chart below (ZFW.pdf file) centered on McAlester for your reference. The chart is something I put together and shows high altitude sectors (24,000 feet and above). High altitude airspace can further be subdivided into high and ultra high sectors and these are depicted on the chart with their veritcal limits.

There is a range ring set at 200 miles around McAlester for reference. As you probably already know VHF reception range is limited to line of sight and can be calculated by the formula 1.23 x SQR (altitude) = reception range in nautical miles.

eg: at 35000 feet reception range = 1.23 x SQR (35000) = 230 nautical miles

The frequency information on the chart is mostly based on my personal monitoring and should be accurate, but if you notice any changes it would be great if you can let me know. I believe Fort Worth Center has reorganized their airpace a bit in the far eastern sectors so they might not be entirely accurate.

Also useful are the charts that show arrival and departures routes (called STAR's and SID's). Attached below as well is the chart for what's called the Bonham 6 Arrival, this is the arrival route into DFW that passes overhead McAlester.

You can get them from this website

Digital Terminal Procedures/Airport Diagrams

Click on "digital - terminal procedures" then enter the airport code. (I didn't provide the direct link because the FAA keeps changing it for some reason).

Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.
 
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Sweet! Thanks for the support guys!

AirScan, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

I just got FlightRadar on my phone. Gonna play with that for a while.
 

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Complimentary to what Airscan said, theres this website

AirNav

They also have information about each airport including frequencies and landing paths etc.
 

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I live in Northern New Jersey have a spare BCT-15 where I programmed every NY ATCC frequency AND t he DC ATCC frequencies that cover the entire state of NJ. Some frequencies ar more active than others, it all depends
 

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10-2, Put up a feed on liveatc.net. I will help as I live in Roland and run the Fayetteville, Arkansas, feed. 132.2, 134.475 and 135.45 are fun to listen to in McAlester. If you leave a router on all the time it will work. Liveatc sells a device that leaves your computer out of the loop. I can contribute a VHF/UHF scanner and device and you will be able to hear the military traffic, too. My feed is KFYV on liveatc.net if you want to listen. Memphis Center hands off a lot of traffic to the ZFW McAlester RCAG

Type in ZFW in radio reference and scroll all the way down (way down) to the RCAG site in McAlester. You can put the ZFW freqs in, CTAF for MLC and FSS local freq also.

I will be glad to assist.
 

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All, I have recently gained interest in monitoring air traffic, but I must say, I'm a bit lost. "Pilot talk" is like a different language epically if you're use to monitoring law enforcement & public services. I just picked up a stand alone air band scanner for the shack, & a Arrow 126 GP airband antenna. The antenna will be up 20 ft. or so in the air.

Any advice for a new guy starting out monitoring the air band?

I live in McAlester OK, DFW air traffic goes right over the house. Fort Worth Center is quite active here. Most of the traffic im hearing is Ft Worth, with an occasional Memphis, Tulsa & Kansas City thrown in. I have a page of RCAG site freq's printed off for the ZFW area, but they're hit & miss.

DFW Inbounds from the North are getting lined up for descent right over McAlester, so there is a lot of chatter.

Interesting, but very different from anything else I've ever monitored.

Hey, you hear me on there all the time if you're monitoring the low frequency out there. 90% of my flights are between Little Rock and North Dallas so I go right over Mena AR, down over the tip of OK, and into TX over the Red River. If you pick up "Cherokee 8083 Yankee" that's me ;).

First things for a layman picking up on aviation, and the vast majority of stuff you'll hear.

The basic format is, 1) who are you, 2) who am I, 3) what do I want. So the first couple of parts will always be the airplane identifier and the controller's identifier. The rest is what's actually happening.

1) Upon initial contact the pilot will identify the plane and whatever clearances he is currently on, or absent any current clearances, his altitude. Out in the middle of nowhere when I get switched from Memphis to Fort Worth I'll just say "center Cherokee 8083 Yankee checking in (altitude)", and the controller will respond "Cherokee 83 yankee Fort Worth center roger, Texarkana Altimeter number number point number number". They always give you the nearest weather station's altimeter setting for you to set your altimeter to upon initial contact.

2) Every transmission is double, you can pick up a lot of lingo just from pilots and controllers saying things differently. Whatever the controller says, the pilot repeats to verify that he is complying. For example, my last takeoff I was given "clear for takeoff, heading 360 for traffic" which I repeated "clear for takeoff 36 runway heading". Those mean the same thing, just said differently. 36 = runway magnetic compass alignment, which is 360 or due north, so "heading 360 on takeoff" from 36 is the same as "runway heading."

3) "Squawk number-number-number-number". Not terribly interesting. Transponder codes. When you are being monitored by a controller on his radar, it is accomplished by your plane's transponder sending out a distinct signal that's unique per airplane. You get a code from the first controller you talk to which you punch into the box in the plane. You'll get it on the ground from a towered airport but in the air from a center or approach controller if you left from an un-towered airport. On the other end of the flight if the pilot is going to an un-towered airport, at some point you'll often hear "cancellation received, squawk VFR, change to advisory frequency approved" meaning the pilot is in range and in sight of his destination and doesn't need to fly an instrument approach because it's a fair weather day and he can just fly in visually, so the controller is turning him loose and he's changing his transponder code to the default (1200), and leaving the frequency.

4) "Clear xxxx xxx xxx xxx." People flying by instrument flight plans get clearances for everything, this will be most of what you hear. On fair weather days most people file instrument flight plans, even in small piston/propeller airplanes, since this requires controllers to help you, they have to give you clearances. If you're not on an instrument flight plan, their help is optional based on THEIR workload (although they rarely deny requests, unless super busy). Jets and turboprops heading to high altitudes will always be on instrument flight plans so will always be getting clearances for everything they do. "Clear to (whatever)" is gonna be to a location, so with maps/charts and some practice reading them, you can find out where someone is headed by their clearances. The location will be an airway (like highways in the sky, lines from point to point that planes fly on) or a VOR radio tower 99 times out of 100. VORs are radio nav towers that approaches and departures tend to stem from. Most fly by GPS these days but you can still do it by radio, a VOR sends out a radio frequency that an instrument on your panel plots like a crosshair, telling you what direction you need to fly to go to or from it. If you tune in a VOR tower in range of you, you'll hear a morse code identifier, and perhaps some weather updates from time to time.

If you grab your location's VFR sectional chart, a VOR will look like this...

It's in the middle of the blue compass circle.


VOR

The blue box has its info. The frequency on top of the box is a Flight Services frequency (people calling them will call them "radio"). The frequency in the box is the VOR's frequency. The channel is for UHF distance measuring instruments, mostly military use. The PGO is the tower's identifier (like its airport code, but for a radio tower), Rich Mountain is its name.


5) At low altitudes on fair weather days you don't have to file an instrument flight plan and get clearances for everything, you can just go fly willy nilly (with airspace permission caveats). When you hear "request following" that's a VFR flight requesting that the controller monitor them to warn them of traffic in proximity to them, and storms, and other such hazards, even though they're not on an instrument flight plan and therefore doesn't need clearances for most things. VFR flights getting following will get a squawk code too, but typically no other clearances other than to change to the next frequency as they cover their route, unless they request some other assistance.

6) Expanding further still, you can tell who's IFR or VFR, and who's big or small, by their altitudes. Small piston/propeller airplanes will be in the low altitudes which are spoken by their number, seventy five hundred feet is "7 5 hundred" just like that. VFR flights travel on the "500s", never an even thousand. Airplanes on IFR flights travel on the even thousands, so you'll hear them say "7 thousand" or "8 thousand" etc. They're also separated by whether they're going east or west. Easterly traffic goes on the odd numbers (5000, 7000, 9000, etc.) and westerly traffic goes on the even numbers (4000, 6000, 8000, etc). From the high teens on up, altitudes are referred to by flight level, which you multiply by 100. So when a guy is given "climb maintain flight level two three zero" that means he has permission to climb up to 23,000 feet. Turbine engined planes will always be going high for fuel efficiency, so the ones getting flight level clearances will be the jets and turboprops.

7) If you hear mention of Memphis, Kansas City, or OKC center on the Fort Worth frequency, that's someone being passed off to them. You'll hear their plane identifier, and then who they're being sent to. "Cherokee 8083 Yankee contact Memphis Center 123.45" and then the pilot will confirm that he got the order to switch and do so, and usually end with something nice for the controller, "123.45 for 83 Yankee, thanks see ya", or "have a good day/night", just bein' polite ya know ;).

There are lots more but that's a lot of what you'll hear on a low center frequency. On bad weather days it'll be a bit more varied, for example, you'll hear mention of storms by the term "precip", short for "precipitation". There are lots of common abbreviations like that. Another common one off the top of my head is if a controller is wanting confirmation that a pilot will comply with something, the pilot will respond "wilco" which is short for "will comply."

Example conversation if I'm flying VFR and approaching a storm, for reference...

A controller would call me "Cherokee 83 Yankee Fort Worth Center"
I'd respond "83 Yankee go ahead" to let him know I heard his call and am listening
He'd say "Cherokee 83 Yankee you have some precip at your 12 o'clock, one zero miles" (meaning 10 miles straight ahead)
I would respond "roger 83 Yankee, request vector to avoid?"
He would respond "Cherokee 83 Yankee turn left heading 220 should get you around"
I would respond "left turn 220 for 83 Yankee" (meaning I'm gonna turn to a heading of 220, southwest'ish)
When I get past the storm I'll call him back, "center 83 Yankee"
And he responds "Cherokee 83 Yankee Fort Worth center go ahead" to let me know he heard my call and is listening
I'll let him know I'm past the storm with "83 Yankee past that precip, resume direct to destination"
He'll respond "Cherokee 83 yankee roger, resume own navigation maintain VFR"
And I'll respond that I comply by repeating "own navigation maintain VFR for 83 yankee"

The last bit meaning that I'm free to go back to flying however I want, but am to remain clear of the clouds since I'm flying VFR.

Once you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple. Pick a busy frequency to listen to and you should have the hang of most of it in a few days.
 
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I live in Anchorage, Alaska. I monitor both the local airforce tower and the major airport towers. It nice to know what is making all the noise. Last few weeks. I have heard many flies of F-22 and C-17 doing daily work. It just add more info to what is heard on scanner. Example is a bad car accident that needed LifeGuard Air med to get one person to hospital asap. Heard page on scanner then within 10 mins first ems unit at crash called for Lifeguard. Long story short all turned out ok. It just makes more info to get the complete picture. Have fun and enjoy listing to local towers, airforce towers and all airspace controlled by the towers........pat
 
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