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GMRS Repeater Networks/Linking Legal?

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They have MURS but it would be nice if they had something else with higher power on VHF high band. Up here in Maine, over 90% of public safety communication is on VHF high band because of terrain, and transmitters placed in the right spots on hill/mountain tops have insane foot prints. I have wanted to experiment with this band on Ham radio but all the hams in Maine mainly use 80 meters. Hopefully one day they will open up more of the VHF high band.

So just use 2 meter. No reason not to unless no one has a license.
 

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So just use 2 meter. No reason not to unless no one has a license.
No one uses it in my area. You will hear an occasional net, a short conversation in the mornings around 0430 and once and awhile someone on 2 meter simplex running 100 watts through a 13 element beam talking to 3 or 4 other people 50-100 miles away from me. Aside from that, we have repeaters that just sit there and identify. They can go days if not weeks with no activity. Its the location I am in. Where I used to live, 2 meters is pretty active. That's why I got a hotspot if I want to talk. There is way more hams on 2 meters outside of my state utilizing it than there is in my state. While hotspots are nice, it just doesn't have that local radio feel to it. I still get on simplex and throw my call out when I am away from the house in a much higher location (I live in a hole) but I never hear anyone on there. Maine is an HF state. If for some reason I were to move out of this state, I would consider moving to a place where hams use 2 meters and other similar bands.
 

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Folks, the topic of this thread is GMRS repeater linking. There are other places to discuss amateur radio activity.
 

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First off, low band is pretty much useless with handhelds, and that is the majority of the GMRS market. Family's are not running around (for the most part) with base stations and mobile rigs in their vehicles, especially with low band 1/4 wave whips to make them actually work well.

I agree, and see any low band GMRS assignment as being specifically a base to mobile and mobile to mobile arrangement. Low band portables are known for their inefficiency and would have very limited use. It's a different operational mentality than having everyone run around with flip phone sized portables but I think there's a place for low band GMRS.

Secondly, the noise floor on low band is insane. GMRS around any metropolitan area would be useless as well.

I operated a business band system on a 48 MHz low band channel for 25 years and the noise floor is not insane. The band is mainly vacant. Skip interference happens but its much more prevalent on the lower frequencies. I don't see GMRS low band being wildly popular in major metropolitan areas where UHF GMRS repeater systems seem to be more prevalent. As mentioned earlier, the low band assignment would be a help in rural areas where there is zero repeater infrastructure and UHF simplex doesn't provide enough coverage.

Just one man's opinion. Thank you for a great discussion!
 

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I agree, and see any low band GMRS assignment as being specifically a base to mobile and mobile to mobile arrangement. Low band portables are known for their inefficiency and would have very limited use. It's a different operational mentality than having everyone run around with flip phone sized portables but I think there's a place for low band GMRS.



I operated a business band system on a 48 MHz low band channel for 25 years and the noise floor is not insane. The band is mainly vacant. Skip interference happens but its much more prevalent on the lower frequencies. I don't see GMRS low band being wildly popular in major metropolitan areas where UHF GMRS repeater systems seem to be more prevalent. As mentioned earlier, the low band assignment would be a help in rural areas where there is zero repeater infrastructure and UHF simplex doesn't provide enough coverage.

Just one man's opinion. Thank you for a great discussion!
A lot of things would be great, but the fact of the matter is the FCC really doesn't want to be bothered with GMRS and adding spectrum. If they could get rid of the repeaters all together (as has been threatened in the past) it would be no skin off the teeth of the FCC. They wouldn't care if it just went away it seems. Highly unlikely they would even consider it, but that is just my opinion.

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I think you'd find that if you started a random conversation with the FCC regarding opening up a GMRS like service on VHF Low band, they might point you towards CB radio with FM now permitted.

Yeah, not a 50 watt radio, but I think the days of FCC giving away radio services that run high power/lotsa coverage that might compete with cellular or other paid services, are gone.
 

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Yeah, not a 50 watt radio, but I think the days of FCC giving away radio services that run high power/lotsa coverage that might compete with cellular or other paid services, are gone.
Like you know, all you gotta do is follow the money!
 
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