GRE scanner preamp

Status
Not open for further replies.

FCVPI99

Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
592
Reaction score
94
Location
Rockford,IL
so im looking into one of the older GREcom made preamps the ones that RS and then GRE sold (see pic)
how do they work? and what power supply cord do i need to get all i know is it runs on 9 volt bat but i have no AMP's info for it all is says is 9VDC for ext plug
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot 2024-10-23 092401.jpg
    Screenshot 2024-10-23 092401.jpg
    86 KB · Views: 29

StoliRaz

£uck Encryption
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Dec 4, 2007
Messages
1,074
Reaction score
982
I run a Watson WRP-1300 that's similar, works on 9V battery or cord. Use it to try to pull in distant signals. Works best in rural settings. In a city it may amplify noise from transmitters. If you find it overloading, there's a switch to turn off and bypass the amp. I do notice a big difference when using it vs not. I mainly use it on my base radios but you can run it on handhelds as well with the battery installed.

I don't have experience with the GRE one but I'm happy with my Watson. I noticed yesterday I could receive a P25 agency that I couldn't get otherwise before adding the amp to my PRO-197.
 

buddrousa

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 5, 2003
Messages
14,437
Reaction score
10,405
Location
Retired 40 Year Firefighter NW Tenn
@FCVPI99
2 words of advice

#1 Look and Follow the polarity markings on the Preamp near where the plug goes you get it wrong you now own a paperweight and the input is 9 volts DC.

#2 If you live in an area with high RF Cell Towers, FM Radio, Paging Towers, or ANY OTHER RF NEAR YOU the PREAMP will overload your RECEIVER and your signals will be worse.
 

rgchristy

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Mar 10, 2005
Messages
1,273
Reaction score
770
Location
Delco, PA
I bought this at an Ace Hardware store and it works well:


I'm sure that Amazon/eBay have something just like it. This is just my experience.

Here's the downloads and some old info on the GRE Super Amplifier
 

Attachments

  • CyberPower CPUAC600 Universal Power Adapter Data Sheet.pdf
    261 KB · Views: 12
  • CyberPower CPUAC600 Universal Power Adapter Owner Manual.pdf
    933.7 KB · Views: 7
  • GRE Super Amplifier Manual.pdf
    1.1 MB · Views: 22
  • Monitoring-Times-1993-09-OCR-Page-0061.pdf
    140.5 KB · Views: 11
  • Popular-Communications-1990-11-OCR-Page-0032.pdf
    67.7 KB · Views: 11

FCVPI99

Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
592
Reaction score
94
Location
Rockford,IL
@FCVPI99
2 words of advice

#1 Look and Follow the polarity markings on the Preamp near where the plug goes you get it wrong you now own a paperweight and the input is 9 volts DC.

#2 If you live in an area with high RF Cell Towers, FM Radio, Paging Towers, or ANY OTHER RF NEAR YOU the PREAMP will overload your RECEIVER and your signals will be worse.
there are no markings
 

rgchristy

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Mar 10, 2005
Messages
1,273
Reaction score
770
Location
Delco, PA
The second page of the pdf manual that I posted, shows the polarity for external power.
 

blackbelter

Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2004
Messages
947
Reaction score
540
I use the base model of this preamp and works perfectly at my town home . I use an old RS 800 antenna attached to the preamp /SDS 200 which monitors my local P25P2 system without any issues . I also own the same GRE unit shown in the OP which I used when I had a portable scanner .
 

buddrousa

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 5, 2003
Messages
14,437
Reaction score
10,405
Location
Retired 40 Year Firefighter NW Tenn
I have 1 Mobile Version 9 volt battery version and 2 or 3 Desktop models and use none of them due to the overloading they caused in my setup this was when using CABLE TV SPLITTERS feeding my rack of scanners I switched to Stridesbergs and have no problems now feeding all of my Scanners.
Before anybody ask no they are not for sale.
 

dave3825

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
10,531
Reaction score
6,113
Location
Suffolk County NY
In another thread its mentioned that the external pack was 300Ma.



In general you can go over the amp rating as the device will only draw what it needs. My Lowrance gps requires 0.9 amps and it sits on a 15 amp circuit. My 436 draws 280 Ma and runs off a 2.4 amp power pack.

You do not want to supply a device less power than it requires or it will suffer.
 

rgchristy

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Mar 10, 2005
Messages
1,273
Reaction score
770
Location
Delco, PA
I just went back a re-read the original post. Since you don't currently own one, I'm not sure that I would purchase one, given that there is newer and better technology out there. When they are available on eBay, etc., they aren't cheap, either.

For the same reason that @buddrousa said, I don't use mine either.

You should probably head over to this sub-forum to see what others are using:


This thread in particular:

 

trentbob

Silent Key W3BUX
Joined
Feb 22, 2007
Messages
6,929
Reaction score
8,210
Location
Bucks County, PA
As far as the picture of the GRE preamp, I still own mine, took a 9-volt battery or AC power supply and was made for a portable to go in between the radio and the rubber duck. They made a flat larger unit to sit on top of your radio and I have that one also, both in good shape. Very old.

I used them on UHF and 800 MHz, slight difference in the adjustment of the small dial. In some cases they actually improved reception but what they were doing was allowing more noise and interference in along with the signal. A better signal would outweigh that.

However, there's a reason I keep them in pristine condition after throwing away so much crap in the last 50 years. I wouldn't let these puppies go. Certain conditions, certain frequencies and different applications I actually saw Improvement and for a period of time of maybe months to years, until frequency changes, they stayed in my current set up of the time.
 

blackbelter

Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2004
Messages
947
Reaction score
540
Well said. There is a tool for every task. I would never sell these very hard to find gems. Like I stated, using these pre amps properly has improved my receptions.
 

rgchristy

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Mar 10, 2005
Messages
1,273
Reaction score
770
Location
Delco, PA
Thanks Dave!

Sorry, that's my fault. I should have rotated the view of the document, but I was too lazy.
 

buddrousa

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 5, 2003
Messages
14,437
Reaction score
10,405
Location
Retired 40 Year Firefighter NW Tenn
A 9-volt alkaline battery is typically rated at around 1 ampere-hour, which means it can continuously supply 1 ampere of current for one hour.
So by that 200 milliamp @ 9 volts dc is being very conservative
 

prcguy

Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2006
Messages
18,332
Reaction score
14,332
Location
So Cal - Richardson, TX - Tewksbury, MA
A 9-volt alkaline battery is typically rated at around 1 ampere-hour, which means it can continuously supply 1 ampere of current for one hour.
So by that 200 milliamp @ 9 volts dc is being very conservative
That's nowhere near typical AH ratings. A Duracell Alkaline/Manganese Dioxide 9v "copper top" battery at 250ma load runs from 9v down to about 7v in one hour and time to swap out in most equipment. At 1.8hour its down to 5v and considered dead dead dead. At 60ma draw its down to 7v in about seven hours and considered time to swap out. That would be only be a 420mah battery with that spec.

Even if it were 1AH rated that would be at very low current for many hours as it could never put out 1A for more than about a minute.


With a 21hr battery life I would estimate the GRE preamp draws about 20ma, which is very little and typical of a low IP1/IP3 amplifier that will overload really easy. Preamps that do well in high RF areas typically draw 200ma and even upwards of 500ma or more at 12v and translate that to 9v and your looking at least 260ma to 667ma at 9v, which would kill a battery in about an hour taking the mid current point. And the GRE preamp is not very good by todays standards, maybe ok to use with a rubber duck but connecting to a base antenna is not recommended.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top