DSDPlus Group Call Rejection

MadChaser

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Any suggestions on this? I've tried searching for solution or meaning and not having any luck. "Group Call Rejection, Reason unknown[C0]. Thanks in advance.



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The "C0" reject reason code falls in the "user or system definable" range (0x61-0xEF)

Looks like RID 4165936 successfully registered with the network, and then successfully affiliated with TG=20067, but then was rejected from making a group call on TG=65533. Now I haven't studied TIA-102.AABD (trunking procedures) but why would the subscriber unit be trying to make a call on a TG that it hadn't affiliated with?
 

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65xxx talkgroups on ASTRO 25 systems are often reserved for patches or temporary ISSI roaming mapped talkgroups. Since there are no documented TGID's above 5xxxx on TxWARN in the RRDB, I suspect that's likely the case. So the subscriber was probably getting rejected from making an ISSI roaming call. I could be wrong, no experience with that system, but from general ASTRO 25 experience that's not uncommon.
 

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Thank you guys very much, I appreciate the feedback. I've been running this software a good 4 or 5 years now but the technical stuff there is still greek to me. The call rejection continues. It's still ongoing even as I type this reply, and cycles thru a handful of the same RID's.
 
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Hi, to MadChaser

I would first look for any talk-group ID 20067 channel grants from RID 4165936. are you seeing any of these?
Then look for talk-group channel grants from those other RIDs you are seeing trying to use TG 65533.
If you never see any group channel grants from those RIDs, those RIDs may be lost or stollen radios.

Cheers
 
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boatbod

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Hi, to MadChaser

I would first look for any talk-group ID 20067 channel grants from RID 4165936. are you seeing any of these?
Then look for talk-group channel grants from those other RIDs you are seeing trying to use TG 65533.
If you never see any group channel grants from those RIDs, those RIDs may be lost or stollen radios.

Cheers
When my agency "looses" a radio, we contact Communications and have the radio locked down. Once that happens, it's not even going to affiliate with the network. Of course, different agencies have different policies, but I tend to think these probably aren't lost or stolen devices, as much as simply misconfigured.
 

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If you want to suppress these events from appearing then...
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Thank you Whiskey! Background events are already hidden, Also I'd like to clarify to all I think some are confusing TG 20067 SFU PD1 with the call rejection event! It's not related, It just happened to photo bomb my capture.
 
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