GSA and Others

[Southtown800]

i get traffic on 417.2000mhz P25 in New haven CT and Manhattan,
can anyone confirm who uses this freq?....also, the dispatch is in the clear, and the field units encrypted,

also looking for any local Connecticut federal freqs that anyone knows of, i am there almost every weekend and i like to bring along my Pro 96 but i cant seem to pinpoint anything on the weekend without knowing what the frequency is,

also looking for CT TSA Freqs

 

[RobKB1FJR]

TSA's Repeaters are very low-power, usually you have to be able to physically see the airport to hear them. Usually they use the Same Frequency. It is important to know the the TSA are not Police they are inspectors.

GSA Police are Dispatched out of a "Mega Center" in Philadelphia.

Amtrak Police on 161.295R are Federal

http://nf2g.com/scannist/index.html

 

[Southtown800]

so when i am hearing the GSA in New Haven CT and NYC the dispatch is coming from philly?

 

[sflmonitor]

It is important to know the the TSA are not Police they are inspectors.
http://nf2g.com/scannist/index.html

TSA = inspectors? Aren't they screeners?

 

[RobKB1FJR]

Inspectors, Screeners, there not Police, Except for the Air Marshals which I think work for the DHS anyway.

 

[sflmonitor]

Inspectors, Screeners, there not Police, Except for the Air Marshals which I think work for the DHS anyway.

Inspectors at airports are law enforcement and screeners are not. Big difference in the roles they play and the radio systems they use. Let's not confuse the masses.

 

[RobKB1FJR]

Your correct, I apologize. I posted too quick.

 

[CqDx]

so when i am hearing the GSA in New Haven CT and NYC the dispatch is coming from philly?

I believe so, GSA-FPS operates 4 megacenters. The one governs New York is known as Region 2 and it is located in Philly

Also I don't think they are encrypted. You sure you have the right settings on?

 

[HM1529]

FPS is no longer a part of the General Services Administration (GSA). FPS was reorganized into the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a unit of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

FPS operates four megacenters:

• Philadelphia, PA (FPS Regions 1, 2, 3)
• Battle Creek, MI (FPS Regions 4, 5, 6)
• Denver, CO (FPS Regions 7, 8, 9, 10)
• Suitland, MD (FPS Region 11- National Capital Region)

There is a Wiki page available for the FPS. Dispatch repeaters are a mix of analog and digital depending on the location. Some areas do use encryption (either by the dispatcher or the field units or both).

 

[Southtown800]

when i heard it, i heard the dispatch clear, and the units in the field encrypted, nothing to interesting, just that license that they ran

 

[SCANdal]

Happy Thanksgiving.

Inspectors, Screeners, there not Police, Except for the Air Marshals which I think work for the DHS anyway.

Robert,

You are correct. The Federal Air Marshal Service is, in fact, a part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration. See http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/

Best wishes,

SCANdal

 

[800crazy1]

sat outside the federal courthouse in hartford ct. with close call on , and picked up the 417.2 p-25 , and as stated above , dispatch was in the clear , all responding units were encrypted. and if there not police , then why do there cruisers marked POLICE and Dept.of Homeland Security ? i understand , to what iv read is that they are police and take care of security for all federal buildings and properties , ect. if you look at there website it is law enforcement , it has there criterier for employment and what not. if i can find the link , ill post it.

 

[800crazy1]

http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contentView.do?contentId=15705&contentType=GSA_OVERVIEW

 

[SCANdal]

Can posters hereafter specify which agency they are talking about?

crazy,

There is a lot of confusion on this thread...I will make a bold attempt to clear it up. Going backwards up the threads:

The General Services Administation mentioned in your last post has no law enforcement element. Here's a snapshot of what the GSA does...click around
http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/channelView.do?pageTypeId=8199&channelId=-13261

Security in and around some General Services Administation properties (i.e. Federal Office Buildings, Federal courthouses) is provided by police officers of the Federal Protective Service, a part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Visit http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/factsheets/fps061104.htm for details.

Federal Air Marshals (another part of the DHS) are federal law enforcement officers who's functions are described in the hyperlink I offer in post number 11 above.

Instead of me trying to explain who Transportation Security Administation (another part of DHS) Inspectors are, I'll let them do it in their own words...click on http://www.tsa.gov/approach/people/inspectors.shtm

Same with TSA Security Officers (what are commonly called screeners), click on http://www.tsa.gov/approach/people/tso.shtm

Lastly, AmTrak Police are federal police officers who's primary functions are safety and security of the National Railroad Passenger Corporation tracks/ways, trains, stations, and yards.

SCANdal

 

[HM1529]

crazy,

Security in and around some General Services Administation properties (i.e. Federal Office Buildings, Federal courthouses) is provided by police officers of the Federal Protective Service, a part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Visit http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/factsheets/fps061104.htm for details.
SCANdal

And, to further clarify, you will hear both FPS Police Officers and FPS Security personnel on the same radio channels. FPS has thousdands of security guards working under contract with third party security companies. The FPS Police are the guys with the police cars. So, the debate over whether FPS is a police or security force is moot. It is both.

 

[sflmonitor]

And, to further clarify, you will hear both FPS Police Officers and FPS Security personnel on the same radio channels. FPS has thousdands of security guards working under contract with third party security companies. The FPS Police are the guys with the police cars. So, the debate over whether FPS is a police or security force is moot. It is both.

Here in South Florida the contracted security guards use seperate UHF frequencies. I've even heard them on commercial UHF allocations. Never heard them on the FPS channels, at least not in my area.

 

[oldsarge]

crazy,

There is a lot of confusion on this thread...I will make a bold attempt to clear it up. Going backwards up the threads:

The General Services Administation mentioned in your last post has no law enforcement element. Here's a snapshot of what the GSA does...click around
http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/channelView.do?pageTypeId=8199&channelId=-13261

Security in and around some General Services Administation properties (i.e. Federal Office Buildings, Federal courthouses) is provided by police officers of the Federal Protective Service, a part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Visit http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/factsheets/fps061104.htm for details.

Federal Air Marshals (another part of the DHS) are federal law enforcement officers who's functions are described in the hyperlink I offer in post number 11 above.

Instead of me trying to explain who Transportation Security Administation (another part of DHS) Inspectors are, I'll let them do it in their own words...click on http://www.tsa.gov/approach/people/inspectors.shtm

Same with TSA Security Officers (what are commonly called screeners), click on http://www.tsa.gov/approach/people/tso.shtm

Lastly, AmTrak Police are federal police officers who's primary functions are safety and security of the National Railroad Passenger Corporation tracks/ways, trains, stations, and yards.

SCANdal

Ya know, I never thought about that much since Homeland Security came into being. You are right. All of our Government buildings are now protected by one of several agencies.

I guess you can sum up GSA (General Services Administration) as (General Supply Administraton - my words). They provide supplies and services to the Government from Apple Computers to Zip Lock Bags. A-Z. Their buildings are also very large which require a lot of security.

 

[hotdjdave]

Before Department of Homeland Security (DHS) came into existence about five years ago, the Federal Protective Service (FPS) was under the General Services Administration (GSA).

The duties of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) were formerly under the Department of Transportation (DOT) until it came under the DHS when it came into existence.

The Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS) was under the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which was part of the DOT, as the FAA's Sky Marshal Program (SMP). The FAMS is the TSA's primary law enforcement entity. When the DHS came into existence, the TSA along with the FAMS, came under the DHS. Transportation Security Officers (screeners) fall under the TSA, as well. There are also TSA Armed Security Officers (ASO) that have law enforcement powers (duty specific to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, DC, under the DASSP).

As for Amtrak, the National Railroad Passenger Corporation is technically a privately owned corporation; it just happens to be that the Federal Government owns all of the preferred stock and the remaining common stock is owned largely by private railroad companies and a few private individuals. The President of the United States, being the chief executive officer, appoints the board of directors and the US Congress confirms the appointments. It is a business owned and operated by the US Government. The authority that Amtrak police have is similar to the authority that many local government owned transportation authority agencies have, just that it happens to be Federal.


The fact that many of these agencies, prior to November 2001, used to fall under other agencies and/or departments, may have been the source of much of the confusion. Hopefully what I and others have written has cleared up some of that confusion. (or made it worse, however you look at it :wink.

 

[fmulder13]

The Federal Protective Service is known to have two frequencies and a nationwide (yyyyikes!) repeater system. In Maine, where I live, I can occasionally hear them on 417.2 on P25 digital. The dispatcher, referred to on the radio as "control," comes in in the clear, with most of the mobile units encrypted. Occasionally a mobile unit will be unencrypted.

However, in Minnesota, where I go to school, I can hear them on their other channel. 415.2, and they come in with a PL tone of 103.5. Both dispatch (referred to as "Battle Creek," and the mobile units come through in the clear. I hear them mostly talking about doing "exterior checks" at various federal buildings in Minneapolis, and clearing themselves from said checks later.

At both places I have heard them conduct roll calls. In Maine I'll hear it typically around 1am, and in Minnesota I've heard roll calls at very sporadic times. Interestingly enough when I've heard roll calls in Minnesota they've been conducted by "Federal Protective Services Megacenter."

 

[n8myc]

Here in Columbus Oh they are still analog and in the clear.I don't know what region we are here but they do everything through the Mega Center as mentioned earlier. I think it's in Cinci. And they are on 415.2, almost forgot