Heads up info on the NX5600 and Nx3680 LOW BAND MOBILES

[w6hp]

I don't do 6 meters and the only thing I like the low bands for is to monitor CHP. The 3680 would probably be ideal for that purpose but since I already have a 5700 and 5800 deck with a KCH-20 head, it would be nice to keep the decks the same size as I will probably add a 5900 in the future.

I took a 790 (45W), put a control board from a 690 in it and programmed CHP frequencies for travel with a KCH-10 head. It works great for receive only and is small with sufficient channel capacity. I program each of the eight CHP divisions. The 6110 is limited as is the 190 handheld.

 

[KB3KBR]

where are you guys looking to buy these from? a local dealer or somewhere online?

 

[kd4efm]

where are you guys looking to buy these from? a local dealer or somewhere online?

I work for a dealer that provides ham friendly pricing.




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[mmckenna]

So, a little bird told me today….

NX-5600 110w mobile.

39-50MHz - keeping with the CHP thing.
NXDN conventional and Analog FM
110 - 25 watts.

DMR Protocol is not supported.

 

[mmckenna]

Analog and NXDN 12.5KHz/narrow only.

-NO- NXDN 6.25KHz/very narrow.
No P25, either.

 

[kd4efm]

Analog and NXDN 12.5KHz/narrow only.

-NO- NXDN 6.25KHz/very narrow.
No P25, either.

That would be weird. But future expansion possibilities.

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[w8red]

You guys that are up on this line, wondering if you could answer three questions:
1) Anyone picked up the lowbander yet? Wonder if it will play in the six meter ham band?.
2) The high power VHF and UHF decks, are they available yet? and will they do DMR and P25 as well as analogue?
3) Anyone that has played with both the EF Johnson (Vm7000 line) vs the Kenwood (NX-5000) line does the Johnson side also do DMR? Any reason one line over the other in the high power deck side? Thinking about a triple deck- low, vhf, uhf.

Thanks in advance

 

[kd4efm]

Low band 2020 release.

Vikings are p25 and analog only.

5700hbk is available now. Rf deck only, must order or add to remote kits.

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[kd4efm]

I have on the inside low down, you can put in the frequency, get the out of band error, but it will take. So chances are, yes, it will play 6m.

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[kd4efm]

As MMcK mentioned, the low band will do nxdn 12.5 (9600) and analog.
As we all know, the high pwr wont do dmr. YET. But you can with the 5000, do low, high, and uhf. Basically any combo of 3 bands. (RF decks)

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[bondo_06092]

so just to try and confirm, are there no plans to produce the 27-36 "K" version of these radios?

 

[kd4efm]

now posted in the price guides for ordering.
NO, P25 is NOT in this release. NXDN 6.25 & 12.5 yes.
LIST PRICE: 1800.00 roughly.

THe NX-3620 is NOT LISTED YET!

AS FOR THE 27 to 36 Split, that is probably down the road and may happen if P25
gets a push on VHF-Low. NXDN may dominate, then maybe DMR (not holding breath on DMR)
but for the most part, the 110 watt units have come out, and next is the UHF decks next year.
EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE A YEAR LATE. (shoulder shrug)
is what it is, but it's holding it's ground for sure.

EFM

 

[Cognomen]

I just tried to program an NX-5600H-F3 with 6m ham... gave me the OOB error but does NOT take (resets to 50.0000 MHz). That's with KPG-D1 v4.00.

Also confirming NXDN 12.5 kHz channel spacing only; no 6.25 kHz selection

 

[kd4efm]

Well snap, that's not good.

 

[ramal121]

I just tried to program an NX-5600H-F3 with 6m ham... gave me the OOB error but does NOT take (resets to 50.0000 MHz). That's with KPG-D1 v4.00.

Also confirming NXDN 12.5 kHz channel spacing only; no 6.25 kHz selection

Yea me too. Same radio and I tried 52.525 for giggles. Software barfed. Put the customer freqs in and didn't investigate further.

 

[kd4efm]

been told Japan locked it to 50.000, and NXDN 9600 (NFM), for now. I have put in a tech request to open it to 54.000 and add VNFM. going to take some time, but I am doing my emails to those who can ask for it. we shall see.

 

[BigLebowski]

been told Japan locked it to 50.000, and NXDN 9600 (NFM), for now. I have put in a tech request to open it to 54.000 and add VNFM. going to take some time, but I am doing my emails to those who can ask for it. we shall see.

I don't care about 6m but P25 is a dealbreaker for me personally. I was looking forward to putting together a LB/VHF/UHF setup for the next vehicle.

I really wish they would get it together and make it so the radios supported all 3 digital formats. I have agencies running analog, P25, DMR, and NXDN just in my local area and having 47 radios for different things is getting highly annoying.

 

[mmckenna]

I don't care about 6m but P25 is a dealbreaker for me personally. I was looking forward to putting together a LB/VHF/UHF setup for the next vehicle.

Are their any agencies running P25 on low band?
Are their any other companies making P25 mobiles for low band?
Are their any companies making P25 low band repeaters?

There's no need for it yet, and the radio can always be upgraded to support it if necessary.
At this point, Kenwood is just trying to standardize their radio offerings. The TK-x90 series is dead. The TK-6110 chassis is gone. They needed a low band mobile for some upcoming large projects, analog only.

I suspect things will change in the future, but at this time, there's no market for a P25 low band mobile. But I get where you are coming from.

 

[BigLebowski]

Harris and Codan both make equipment.

I am running Provoice now, would be nice to have something off the shelf that I can load with a more modern KVL.

To be fair..NXDN is completely uncharted territory on low band whereas P25 has had military use for years. No reason they can't make it and DMR available.

 

[mmckenna]

Harris and Codan both make equipment.

Good point, but not very common in the LMR world to be running P25 on low band.

To be fair..NXDN is completely uncharted territory on low band whereas P25 has had military use for years. No reason they can't make it and DMR available.

Yeah, I hope they do. Not sure what the reason was behind limiting this model. I suspect that'll change at some point.

Would be interesting to see how TDMA handles skip conditions, though.