Help On LTR

[ScanDaBands]

Here's the frequencies:

CH Frequency
01 452.1000 I found this LT ID:0-01-070
02 452.3375 I found this LT ID:0-02-200
03 452.6500 I've found nothing - heard nothing
04 461.3875 I've found nothing - heard nothing
05 461.6625 I've found nothing - heard nothing


How do I set this up in a BC785D for trunking?

03 - 05 must follow suit right like

Channel 03 would be 0-03-???
Channel 04 0-04-???
Channel 05 0-05-???

right?

I don't understand where these tags or id's go in the 785D , forgive me I know nothing on trunking!!

 

[fmon]

This will take time to map your system, but you only have 5 freqs to deal with and two apparently have sufficient activity, which could give a clue as to the location of the last three.

These two links may provide enough info for mapping your system.

LTR
also
LTR by Kenwood USA

Edit: I failed to answer this question.

I don't understand where these tags or id's go in the 785D , forgive me I know nothing on trunking!!

If you do not have software (shame on you :wink: ) then use the menu as follows: 2,2,rotate VFO to bank,E,1,1,9,3.

 

[DJ88]

What is the name of the system you are trying to program ?

 

[fmon]

Looks like Winslow site on the Hussey Communications System. RRData list it as 01 through 05. If this is correct, someone already mapped the system.

 

[DJ88]

It appears you have programmed the frequencies in channels 1 thru 5 in the bank, and that you have done it correctly if you are receiving talk groups numbers and activity. BTW, the system doesn't have to be in the first bank of your scanner so that the frequencies go in channels 1 thru 5. It can be in any bank, but the frequencies must go in the 1st thru 5th channels in that bank.

The talk group IDs (0-01-XXX) do not necessarily run in the sequence you listed in your post as an example for channels 3 thru 5. For the frequency in channel 3, for example, the 0 and the 03 would be correct, but the last three numbers could be anything.

If you are only hearing activity on the first two frequencies, it could be possible that they aren't using the other three or that there is just limited activity on them. A fire company in my area uses an LTR system with just two frequencies and they only work off of one of them. Never any activity on the second one.

Page 48 in the manual (Step 3 - Programming ID Scan Lists Manually)
tells you how to program a talk group ID, which in this case would be 0-01-xxx). Page 49 under "To enter a LTR ID" explains how to specifically program the LTR Talk Group. The Area Code is the first number (0), the Home Repeater is the second two numbers (01), and the ID is the last three numbers (xxx).

Page 28 explains how to program text tags. You can label a Talk Group or frequency by selecting the letters and numbers you want. When the TG or frequency (for a conventional system) appears on the screen, your text tag will appear also, enabling you to know exactly who you are listening to without having to remember the frequency or Talk Group.
For example, when my LTR system becomes active, the TG 0-01-108 appears on the screen and under it my text tag reads "Jackson Twp. FD FG 1"

You can also put your scanner on ID search by pressing and holding the trunk button until ID SEARCH appears on the screen, then release it. It will then search for and you will hear all active talk groups in the system. When one that you don't have programmed in appears, just push Enter and it will automically go into the next open spot on the ID Scan List. If you push and hold the Search button again until ID SCAN appears on the screen, you will only hear the Talk Groups you have programmed into you ID Scan Lists.

I may have given you informatiojn you are already aware of, if so, my apoligies. If I have helped, great !! If you have any more questions, just post and I or someone will help you.

 

[ScanDaBands]

Looks like Winslow site on the Hussey Communications System. RRData list it as 01 through 05. If this is correct, someone already mapped the system.

YES that's CORRECT ,where can I find that info?

 

[ScanDaBands]

I may have given you informatiojn you are already aware of, if so, my apoligies. If I have helped, great !! If you have any more questions, just post and I or someone will help you.

THANK YOU and that goes for everybody that has responded also....MUCH APPRECIATED!!

 

[DJ88]

You're more than welcome and let us know if you have it working properly.

 

[ScanDaBands]

You're more than welcome and let us know if you have it working properly.

Yes I do think so the channel stops and shows the L1-2:0-02-200
and the frequency which is 452.3375 ..... Beautiful-- GREAT GROUP !!

 

[ScanDaBands]

I do have another question......scanning the 452.100 I have 0-01-070 entered and that works.....I noticed when the mobiles come back it says 0-01-060 what does that mean?

probably not much since I'm getting it right? I am in the trunk SEARCH ID mode.

Should I program that frequency again with the 0-01-060 entered in another channel or ??

 

[pro92b]

The mobiles are on a different talkgroup so they can't speak directly to each other, only dispatch. One taxi company here has a separate talkgroup for each car so the base knows which car is transmitting by looking at the ID.

You don't need to enter the frequency again. You'll hear everything in ID search mode. Once you decide which ID's you want to hear you can put them into scanlists and use ID scan mode. That will exclude groups you don't want to hear.

 

[fmon]

Looks like Winslow site on the Hussey Communications System. RRData list it as 01 through 05. If this is correct, someone already mapped the system.

YES that's CORRECT ,where can I find that info?

In RRDatabase link above at Hussey Communications

 

[ScanDaBands]

Thanks a million,what does Confirmed LCN mean ??

 

[ScanDaBands]

Once you decide which ID's you want to hear you can put them into scanlists and use ID scan mode. That will exclude groups you don't want to hear.

Not to sound totally foolish but how do I do that?

 

[fmon]

Thanks a million,what does Confirmed LCN mean ??

When in that RRDatabase page, clicking on Confirmed LCN link will produce a popup, which will give a few details regarding the system. One detail is the FCC Call Sign. Clicking on that link will open another page which will yield more details including links to other licenses located near by the Hussey site. While on your Hussey page, also note near the top another link called Updated site general info. One of the RR administrators (Eric Carlson in this case) receives data submitted by others who monitored or/and mapped your system and updated the info accordingly. Notice, that Eric updated the system starting about a year ago, which could be why no one has submitted any talkgroup data yet. This is your opportunity to help out, submit what you have using the link on the Hussey database page near the bottom with the link called submitting info here. Details are provided on the submissions popup.

I pointed you to the link for this data in my previous, but the owner of this forum, Lyndsay Blanton provides a link near the top of all pages called RRDatabase. This button will navigate you to the same site, and thousands of others throughout the world.

pro92b wrote:

Once you decide which ID's you want to hear you can put them into scanlists and use ID scan mode. That will exclude groups you don't want to hear.

Not to sound totally foolish but how do I do that?

Having a 785D, I'll try to help with this question. You apparently have two ID's in the scanner, if not review page 48 in the owners manual for how and continue on to page 51 for ID Scan Mode.

Your questions are pertinent to the issues, certainly not foolish, indicating a strong effort to enjoy this hobby like the rest of us.

 

[DJ88]

When you find an active talk group that you want to enter into the ID Scan List, page 46 of the manual, "SCAN LISTS" explains how to do it, steps 1 thru 6. Once you have completed step 6 stop and don't do anything else. This is general info on how to set your unit up so it will accept IDs. Once you have completed step 6, on your screen, you should see M1-1 in the top right corner and dotted lines and ENTER ID.

There are specific ways to enter IDs for each type of trunked system. For LTR IDs go to page 49 "To enter a LTR ID" steps 1 thru 4. Once you have entered the ID and pressed enter, rotate the VFO knob slightly until you see M1-2 in the top right corner, Then enter the next ID number, and so on until you have all the ones you want on your scan list.
Once you're done press SCAN and you're good to go.

 

[INDY72]

Confirmed LCN means this:

It is confirmed as the CORRECT LCN for that system using scanner, LTRTrunk/LTRDump, or another method. Thus it is CONFIRMED as the correct placement in the LCN Order.

Same for EDACS systems, once we get the proper placement of freqs in thier LCN Order, we then put it in a special grouping under the heading CONFIRMED LCN's.

 

[ScanDaBands]

Hey guys I REALLY appreciate all the help on this....This a GREAT forum. I'm quite amazed at the response I received - APPRECIATE it 100%

Any Mainers out there seeing this , I just submitted a BUNCH of CTSS/DCS tones for the Waterville area (Kennebec County) - ENJOY!