Homepatrol 2 help in Mesa, AZ

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MARKINAZ

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Wow Steve, you really have tried a lot of things to figure all that out! I'll try your suggestions while my HP2 is listed on eBay. If it sells I'll save a few more bucks and maybe get the SDS200. I'm assuming you didn't have to do this type of experimenting with the SDS? Would it be worth the extra money to have Scanner Master or Zip Scanners pre-program a new SDS for me?
 

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I've done programming for money, but IMO it's better to teach someone how to fish than to give/sell them a fish. You'll be happier with your scanner in the long run if you learn how to program it yourself, rather than being dependent on someone else to do it for you.
 

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Another question, if I may, (remember, I'm quite new to all of this). I'm again looking at the Mesa PD Talkgroups in RadioReference, and I see DE as the mode for many, which means it's Digital with full encryption. If I'm understanding correctly, these will not be able to be monitored no matter what scanner I have. Is this correct?
 

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Well then, I'm going to have to reconsider my commitment and dollars to the scanner hobby. If I can only listen to 6 out of the 40 talkgroups for the Mesa PD, I'm not so sure it's worth my time or my money. This really bums me out. Now I'm REALLY missing the days of crystals and analog!! Is there anything one can do to hear those encrypted channels? Any other type of scanner?
 

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Is there anything one can do to hear those encrypted channels? Any other type of scanner?
Nope. The only (illegal) option is to steal a system radio, listen to it until the sysadmin kills it, then dispose of it before you get caught with stolen property. :(
 

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This may be a stupid question then, but, why are the scanners so expensive when the vast majority of the channels are encrypted? The "action" (as they like to say in the ads for the scanners), is extremely limited. From what I can see after looking at Arizona PD's and Colorado PD's (where I'm from), they should be giving the radios away because they're practically obsolete. Unless of course you want to listen to the local water and sewer department. What do you guys listen to that keeps your interest? Geez I am sad now : (
 

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Because in most places the "vast majority" of channels aren't encrypted.
 

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Try the attached zipped hpe files. Each is a separate FL. I'm not sure how current this data is. Unzip, Import, and send to your scanner. If the results are the same as, or worse than, your previous attempts, simply delete these FLs from your Sentinel and your radio. Also, the status of various settings (avoids, priorities, etc.) may need attention.
 

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Unfortunately where I live the "vast majority" of PD channels are encrypted. Oh well, thanks for your time and help.
In Mesa, Apache Junction, Gilbert, Chandler, and Tempe all the police dispatches are in the clear. These should all be within your listening range. Likewise Phoenix, MCSO, DPS, and most other local valley agencies have all their dispatch in the clear. There are few agencies that are fully encrypted in the valley. There is still a LOT to listen to despite tactical channels being encrypted. Don't let all the "DE" in the database deter you. You live in a great area for scanner listening!
 

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Mark,

To answer your previous question, I think if you do go with the SDS series you'd be quite comfortable programming it yourself. The functionality is very similar to the HP series even including the zip code feature. I, too, debated having the scanner pre-programmed and it would have proven to be a waste of money even considering my rudimentary computer skills. Some YouTube video tutorials are helpful references.

As for the other issue you lament - as we all do - the dreaded E word. More and more agencies are going encrypted and this trend will continue. As it stands today, there are still plenty of agencies whose main dispatch channels operate in the clear (Phoenix, Mesa, Scottsdale, Chandler, MCSO, DPS, etc.) but that could change tomorrow with the flip of a switch. It really comes down to a cost/benefit comparison. Yes, 700 bucks is a lot to spend on a scanner and there is less out there to monitor than there used to be, but still plenty of great stuff.

All the more reason to see if we can't get your HP-2 to work for you. I think if you continue to experiment with it you may just crack the code. Update the database, squelch set to zero, attenuation off, restrict your service types, limit the tower sites, limit the talkgroups you're scanning, move the antenna, etc. are all tricks to try. Keep at it - I was standing on the ledge of very tall building contemplating my existence when I finally got mine to work.....
 

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I don't believe any non encrypted PD talkgroups will be heard off any site besides Mesa.
 

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I live in Mesa ( river view/west) also and use the HP2 with the remtronix 800 antenna using only the Mesa simulcast site and it monitors step by step with the SDS200 I use.
All district dispatch is in the clear and you will hear plenty of action, also program the"DE" talk groups because at times they pop up in the clear.
If you need any help I can bring my laptop on some evening or Sunday since that is my only day off and meet up somewhere (library ect.)
I am on Facebook in the Arizona Scanner enthusiast group and you can contact me through there...
 
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